Hi Jim,

just for the record: your argumentation didn't persuade me at all, I just
disengaged. I actually would consider your proposal to be debatable and not
our priority at best, counterproductive at worst.

But, it's your prerogative to submit a proposal like this à titre
personnel, without suggesting support by others unless explicitely
provided. Just don't drag Wikimedia into this.

Best,
Lodewijk



2016-07-27 18:46 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:

> Assuming my argument below is sufficiently persuasive, is
> https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=CRB-2016-0002-0002
> an appropriate opportunity to ask others to contact the Copyright
> Royalty Board and ask for a sliding scale redistribution from the
> top-popularity artists who have financially benefited from mass
> consumer copying technologies, to greater proportions for new, small,
> and emerging artists, in order to support pre-mass copying artist
> employment and demand?
>
> If so, the deadline for comments on those proposed non-changes is August
> 24.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:35 AM, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sorry I hit reply early.
> >
> > The minimum necessary for production of knowledge is not sufficient to
> > produce the optimum amount of knowledge. Therefore we should petition to
> > redistribute compulsory license royalties to make amends for the reasons
> > that compulsory licenses are awarded, instead of merely awarding the
> > particular people who prove that they should be awarded.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, June 30, 2016, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> The minimum is necessary for survival is not sufficient to achieve
> optimal
> >> scenarios.
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016, John Hendrik Weitzmann
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To the contrary, I think: Wikimedia projects are proof that production
> of
> >>> knowledge is not at all necessarily tied to compensation/remuneration.
> So,
> >>> as much as I am a fan of levies to compensate for (unhindered and
> >>> unsurveilled) private reproduction of works in general, I don't see
> why we
> >>> should petition in this way.
> >>>
> >>> 2016-06-23 16:38 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>>>
> >>>> The mass consumer copying which allows widespread sharing of
> knowledge,
> >>>> protographs, performances, written works, etc., also made it more
> difficult
> >>>> for anyone but the most popular artists supported by the larger
> consolidated
> >>>> publishers to remain gainfully employed, cutting the total number of
> people
> >>>> employed as such artists substantially. Wikipedia has unresolved
> plagiarism
> >>>> issues which are part of the same problem, but the web in general is
> >>>> designed to make and transmit digital copies of things, usually
> without
> >>>> compensation, so the issue is central to sustainable production of
> >>>> knowledge.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016, L.Gelauff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At this point I don't see how redistributing copyright income is in
> >>>>> scope for Wikimedia. Maybe on a tangent, very remotely? I might be
> missing
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>> Lodewijk
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2016-06-23 16:27 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lodewijk,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is your opinion of this particular proposal? The Copyright
> Office
> >>>>>> said they wanted to study it when I spoke with them yesterday. It
> seems
> >>>>>> clear to me. I did the math after looking at employed artist
> numbers from
> >>>>>> the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics, and am
> convinced it
> >>>>>> would be near-optimal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016, L.Gelauff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi James,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Given the sensitive nature of the list, and your history in
> >>>>>>> discussions, please don't take 'no comment' for 'no objection'. I
> stopped
> >>>>>>> objecting to your emails quite a while ago even if I disagree
> because they
> >>>>>>> are so often far beyond what I consider our shared Wikimedia
> values, and I
> >>>>>>> suspect I might not be the only one.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you respond, I hope you'll do so as an individual, without
> >>>>>>> suggesting you respond on behalf of anything or anyone. But that
> is perhaps
> >>>>>>> stating the obvious.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lodewijk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2016-06-23 16:15 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since there have been no objections, would anyone like to
> cosponsor
> >>>>>>>> this?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>>> From: Copyright Information <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016
> >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: General copyright
> >>>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: Copyright Information <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You may petition the Copyright Royalty Board by  mail:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Copyright Royalty Board
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PO Box 70977
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Washington, DC 20024-0400
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> LG
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> U.S. Copyright Office
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Attn: Public Information Office
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 101 Independence Avenue, S.E.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Washington, DC  20559-6000
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phone: 877-476-0778 (toll free) or 202-707-5959
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Fax: 202-252-2041
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Website:  www.copyright.gov
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:50 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: Copyright Information
> >>>>>>>> Subject: General copyright
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> General Questions Form
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Category: General copyright
> >>>>>>>> Name: James Salsman
> >>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>> Question: I would like to petition the Copyright Royalty Judges to
> >>>>>>>> institute a sliding scale to redistribute top-40 windfalls from
> consolidated
> >>>>>>>> artists\' publishers to small, developing, and emerging artists
> in order to
> >>>>>>>> support the same number of gainfully employed performing and
> writing artists
> >>>>>>>> prior to the introduction of mass consumer copying technology.
> What are the
> >>>>>>>> email address(es) for petitioning the CRB? Thank you. Sincerely,
> James
> >>>>>>>> Salsman tel.: 650-427-9625 email: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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