Hey James

Earlier this year we answered a call for comments about Sec. 512 safe
harbors and published our thoughts in a blogpost:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/06/save-safe-harbors-open-web/

We were subsequently invited to a series of roundtables by the copyright
office, where we reiterated our views. You can read about that here:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/06/16/copyright-law/

Thanks for raising the point. I hope this clarifies WMF's position.

Best,
Jan

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:33 PM, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whether we agree with changing compulsory license fee distribution
> away from consolidated top artists to support pre-mass copying demand
> and artist employment or not, I suggest that the Foundation take a
> position on the DMCA safe harbor provisions which are coming under a
> very harsh attack by artists who see the takedown provisions as too
> great an administrative and financial burden. Please see:
>
> http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/08/08/
> 487291905/why-taylor-swift-is-asking-congress-to-update-copyright-laws
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/music-industry-a-
> listers-call-879718
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:42 AM, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks to Lodewijk for suggesting off-list that I did not sufficiently
> > address these topics:
> >
> > Scope in mission: If the Copyright Royalty Board were to provide a
> > sliding scale for compulsory licenses in order to return artist and
> > songwriter demand and employment to their levels prior to mass
> > consumer copying, the increased production and more accurate
> > distribution of rewards for work by demand should serve to empower
> > people to develop educational content for the projects because of the
> > increased levels of support for artistic production where copyright
> > violations currently occur.
> >
> > Need: The problem with incorrectly allocating resources because of
> > mass consumer copying and copyright violation inhibits meritocratic
> > distribution of reward for work by demand.
> >
> > Priorities: While the Wikimedia Foundation and its volunteers have a
> > long history of working hard to remedy copyright violations, this
> > proposal should be judged on its own merits without regard to
> > authorship. I claim no ownership of the proposal.
> >
> > Other parties' perceptions: For the reasons stated above, this
> > proposal will be seen as positive. Companies such as Spotify, Pandora,
> > YouTube may need to write more checks, and the largest of those checks
> > will not be as large, but that is a linear overhead to solve an
> > exponential inefficiency in the broken distribution of rewards, which
> > inhibits meritocracy.
> >
> > In the absence of persuasive arguments against the proposal, I expect
> > that it will be evaluated on its merits by the Foundation experts
> > charged with making recommendations for action. If this understanding
> > is incorrect, please let me know.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jim
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:52 AM, L.Gelauff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> just for the record: your argumentation didn't persuade me at all, I
> just
> >> disengaged. I actually would consider your proposal to be debatable and
> not
> >> our priority at best, counterproductive at worst.
> >>
> >> But, it's your prerogative to submit a proposal like this à titre
> personnel,
> >> without suggesting support by others unless explicitely provided. Just
> don't
> >> drag Wikimedia into this.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Lodewijk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2016-07-27 18:46 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>> Assuming my argument below is sufficiently persuasive, is
> >>> https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=CRB-2016-0002-0002
> >>> an appropriate opportunity to ask others to contact the Copyright
> >>> Royalty Board and ask for a sliding scale redistribution from the
> >>> top-popularity artists who have financially benefited from mass
> >>> consumer copying technologies, to greater proportions for new, small,
> >>> and emerging artists, in order to support pre-mass copying artist
> >>> employment and demand?
> >>>
> >>> If so, the deadline for comments on those proposed non-changes is
> August
> >>> 24.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Jim Salsman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:35 AM, James Salsman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> > Sorry I hit reply early.
> >>> >
> >>> > The minimum necessary for production of knowledge is not sufficient
> to
> >>> > produce the optimum amount of knowledge. Therefore we should
> petition to
> >>> > redistribute compulsory license royalties to make amends for the
> reasons
> >>> > that compulsory licenses are awarded, instead of merely awarding the
> >>> > particular people who prove that they should be awarded.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thursday, June 30, 2016, James Salsman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> John,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The minimum is necessary for survival is not sufficient to achieve
> >>> >> optimal
> >>> >> scenarios.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016, John Hendrik Weitzmann
> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> To the contrary, I think: Wikimedia projects are proof that
> production
> >>> >>> of
> >>> >>> knowledge is not at all necessarily tied to
> compensation/remuneration.
> >>> >>> So,
> >>> >>> as much as I am a fan of levies to compensate for (unhindered and
> >>> >>> unsurveilled) private reproduction of works in general, I don't see
> >>> >>> why we
> >>> >>> should petition in this way.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> 2016-06-23 16:38 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> The mass consumer copying which allows widespread sharing of
> >>> >>>> knowledge,
> >>> >>>> protographs, performances, written works, etc., also made it more
> >>> >>>> difficult
> >>> >>>> for anyone but the most popular artists supported by the larger
> >>> >>>> consolidated
> >>> >>>> publishers to remain gainfully employed, cutting the total number
> of
> >>> >>>> people
> >>> >>>> employed as such artists substantially. Wikipedia has unresolved
> >>> >>>> plagiarism
> >>> >>>> issues which are part of the same problem, but the web in general
> is
> >>> >>>> designed to make and transmit digital copies of things, usually
> >>> >>>> without
> >>> >>>> compensation, so the issue is central to sustainable production of
> >>> >>>> knowledge.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016, L.Gelauff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> At this point I don't see how redistributing copyright income is
> in
> >>> >>>>> scope for Wikimedia. Maybe on a tangent, very remotely? I might
> be
> >>> >>>>> missing
> >>> >>>>> something.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> Best
> >>> >>>>> Lodewijk
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> 2016-06-23 16:27 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Lodewijk,
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> What is your opinion of this particular proposal? The Copyright
> >>> >>>>>> Office
> >>> >>>>>> said they wanted to study it when I spoke with them yesterday.
> It
> >>> >>>>>> seems
> >>> >>>>>> clear to me. I did the math after looking at employed artist
> >>> >>>>>> numbers from
> >>> >>>>>> the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics, and am
> >>> >>>>>> convinced it
> >>> >>>>>> would be near-optimal.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016, L.Gelauff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Hi James,
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Given the sensitive nature of the list, and your history in
> >>> >>>>>>> discussions, please don't take 'no comment' for 'no
> objection'. I
> >>> >>>>>>> stopped
> >>> >>>>>>> objecting to your emails quite a while ago even if I disagree
> >>> >>>>>>> because they
> >>> >>>>>>> are so often far beyond what I consider our shared Wikimedia
> >>> >>>>>>> values, and I
> >>> >>>>>>> suspect I might not be the only one.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> If you respond, I hope you'll do so as an individual, without
> >>> >>>>>>> suggesting you respond on behalf of anything or anyone. But
> that
> >>> >>>>>>> is perhaps
> >>> >>>>>>> stating the obvious.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Lodewijk
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> 2016-06-23 16:15 GMT+02:00 James Salsman <[email protected]>:
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Since there have been no objections, would anyone like to
> >>> >>>>>>>> cosponsor
> >>> >>>>>>>> this?
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> >>>>>>>> From: Copyright Information <[email protected]>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016
> >>> >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: General copyright
> >>> >>>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Cc: Copyright Information <[email protected]>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> You may petition the Copyright Royalty Board by  mail:
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Copyright Royalty Board
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> PO Box 70977
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Washington, DC 20024-0400
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> LG
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> U.S. Copyright Office
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Attn: Public Information Office
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> 101 Independence Avenue, S.E.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Washington, DC  20559-6000
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Phone: 877-476-0778 (toll free) or 202-707-5959
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Fax: 202-252-2041
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Website:  www.copyright.gov
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:50 PM
> >>> >>>>>>>> To: Copyright Information
> >>> >>>>>>>> Subject: General copyright
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> General Questions Form
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Category: General copyright
> >>> >>>>>>>> Name: James Salsman
> >>> >>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
> >>> >>>>>>>> Question: I would like to petition the Copyright Royalty
> Judges
> >>> >>>>>>>> to
> >>> >>>>>>>> institute a sliding scale to redistribute top-40 windfalls
> from
> >>> >>>>>>>> consolidated
> >>> >>>>>>>> artists\' publishers to small, developing, and emerging
> artists
> >>> >>>>>>>> in order to
> >>> >>>>>>>> support the same number of gainfully employed performing and
> >>> >>>>>>>> writing artists
> >>> >>>>>>>> prior to the introduction of mass consumer copying technology.
> >>> >>>>>>>> What are the
> >>> >>>>>>>> email address(es) for petitioning the CRB? Thank you.
> Sincerely,
> >>> >>>>>>>> James
> >>> >>>>>>>> Salsman tel.: 650-427-9625 email: [email protected]
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
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