On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can't figure how the pubsub service
>> would suss out a full JID from a bare without doing unseemly things.
>
> Agreed.
>

Perhaps I'm missing something, but a presence access model imho is
enough, where is the complication?

>>> Further: how much core delivery logic are we forcing onto the pubsub
>>> service?
>>
>>     In the case of IQ delivery, if the problems with bare JIDs can be
>> solved somehow (including not allowing them to subscribe to nodes
>> configured to deliver via IQ) then any existing XMPP fabric should be
>> able to handle the routing normally, and the pubsub service would only
>> need to handle IQ related errors in addition to their current chores.
>
> Correct. That is the appeal.
>
Yep that was the idea reuse something that works without overcomplicating pubsub

>>     All that being said, I'm not thrilled with the idea of IQ delivery.
>> I'd think if you needed something like this then you should use some
>> kind of message delivery verification (I know, I know, we've been over
>> this a million times), presence based subscriptions, or something similar.
>
> /me nods

Well, I've said above presence subscriptions are essential, sorry if
I've missed the specify this detail. The problem is that they don't
completely solve the problem of reliability since I may send a message
just before receiving an unavailable, not to mention flaky
connections...

bye

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