It would have been the ideal workflow - but it looks like Atom feeds validate 
online without it, or with an empty href value attached. I'll still use it 
where it's available though, otherwise I've shifted to simply checking if the 
result is a valid feed (of whatever type). Might be some otherway of tracking 
any movements from my http client.

 Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.survivethedeepend.com
OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative





________________________________
From: Brett Slatkin <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 9:30:35 PM
Subject: [pubsubhubbub] Re: How to check what pubsubhubbub.appspot.com is  
doing?


I'm doing this same "anti-aliasing" of feed URLs by using
//atom:feed/id elements. The "self" link (which is in the 0.2 spec)
doesn't work right in practice, methinks. Not sure how well we'll
define this for 0.3 though.

-Brett

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Pádraic Brady <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Not sure if its relevant in terms of the reference hub, but my Subscriber
> has trouble with your feed. What it's doing is accepting your Atom feed URI
> "http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom"; and then attempting to verify
> the location of the feed, i.e. to rule out redirects etc. To do this, it
> parses the feed for an atom link with a rel attribute of "self". In the case
> of your feed, however, the href attribute seems to be empty - so my
> Subscriber passes back an exception stating that the feed's final location
> could not be verified.
>
> I'd expect the Hub to be making a similar check in verifying the
> subscription details. It's a total stretch, but since this seems to breach
> the Atom specification it's possibly related. See
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#section-4.2.7
>
> Paddy
>
> Pádraic Brady
>
> http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.survivethedeepend.com
> OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim Bray <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 8:06:45 PM
> Subject: [pubsubhubbub] How to check what pubsubhubbub.appspot.com is doing?
>
>
> I *think* I'm pinging appspot when I update (it goes into the code
> that does so and doesn't report any errors) but I look into my
> logfiles and don't see any accesses from appspot since about 7PM last
> night.  Is there a way to find out when appspot thinks I've pinged it?
>
> Hey, my publishing system is 2500 lines of Perl in one file that I
> wrote in a few days in 2002, what could possibly go wrong...
>
> -Tim
>

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