I think what's happening is the inevitable. Over the past few months we've seen PuSH rolled out, discussed, adopted, poked with a stick, etc. It's come through unscathed. rssCloud outside of its Wordpress adoption hasn't gotten the same attention or adoption. Those of us actually implementing these things always had two issues - fat ping efficiency, Atom support and unreliable security. PuSH has not had these as issues.
At every turn rssCloud is taking a long time to solve issues PuSH addressed almost from the start. I mean, rssCloud still doesn't have formal Atom support - Dave keeps mentioning Atom but he has never specified a namespace to use for the rsscloud element - and there are now three possibilities: the rssCloud URI, a third-party article suggestion, and the RSS Advisory Boards proposed RSS 2.0 namespace. It's an implementation nightmare for Atom. From the article, Dave's remaining shots at PuSH are desktop client communications. Presumably he hasn't heard of XMPP, Comet or long polling - all of which can be applied with PuSH. Indeed, his own rssCloud solution is nothing more than standard long polling. I can do that in my sleep with the efficiency afforded by a light server such as nginx (and I'm sure the Python/Ruby guys have their own language alternatives too). This is all a good thing in a way. For those watching the news, it shows PuSH got it right and rssCloud is only now catching up and backtailing on previous statements. Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.survivethedeepend.com OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative ________________________________ From: Alan Williamson <[email protected]> To: Pubsubhubbub <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, December 27, 2009 8:35:37 AM Subject: [pubsubhubbub] Re: rssCloud - it just keeps changing... What i find most alarming about that article is Dave's line: "I learned when I met with the Tumblr guys in NY earlier this month that their feeds get pounded. The number one most referenced pages on their sites are the feeds. [..] but we had a very small fraction of the traffic that Tumblr, WordPress, Blogger, Typepad etc have. Now that I know it is an issue," __NOW__ that he knows its an issue?!?!?! It is time for Mr Winer to step down and stop pretending he is the all seeing RSS guru that he claims to be. I mean it is 2009 and only now he is realizing that RSS traffic makes up a significant amount of load. How can someone so ignorant to the wonders of RSS payloads be in control of designing a new protocol. Anyway ... i guess he's now at the party, so lets not berate that ... even though he is some 6 years too late! On Dec 27, 1:53 am, Julien Genestoux <[email protected]> wrote: > Good, next step is probably renaming RSSCloud into PubSubHubbub and we're > done :)
