Julien,
I think your ideas are good, but I would like to suggest that one thing that
could get more people using PSHB is if we were to encourage people to think
of it as infrastructure that enables whole new kinds of applications rather
than just a improvement on the efficiency of polling for blog and microblog
updates. Frankly, the blog/micro-blog space is pretty densely occupied and
the opportunities to find and exploit under-served niches are limited or at
least hard to discover. Thus, I think that people who are looking to
successfully invest effort in the "next billion dollar idea" are likely to
be the ones that figure out how to use this infrastructure in new and, as
yet, unanticipated ways.

I am particularly excited by the ability to build real-time event driven
applications that are more focused on "structured data" events rather than
just dissemination of blobs of text. Some examples of structured objects
that could be distributed as Atom entries via PSHB: Offers-To-Sell,
Offers-To-Buy, Pricing data (i.e. products, stocks, etc.), "location"
related data, Weather data, "sensor" data of many kinds, job-openings
(Offers-To-Hire), or resumes (Offers-To-Be-Hired), updates to all kinds of
databases (semantic or otherwise), "Calendar" events, etc... But, I'm sure
I've missed the really interesting thing...

bob wyman

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Julien Genestoux <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ciao!
>
> A few days ago I was reminded of what initially happend with OpenID.
> Everybody thought it was great, and, after some time, a lot of services
> became providers but not so many of them became consumers. It has changed,
> but I believe we still have a very high producer/consumer ratio.
>
> Today, I am mostly concerned that PubSubHubbub is kind of following the
> same curve. We pretty much have all the big blogging plateforms using
> PubSubHubbub, we have several and services like feedburner make this quite
> ubiquitous for other feeds.
>
> The "consumer" part is also quite impressive, but I would argue that it is
> a little bit less strong. Of course, Google represents a massive subscriber
> but we need more. My question is relatively simple : how could we get more
> subscribers to adopt PubSubHubbub?
>
> I think there are 2 things we should work on :
>
> 1) Find what are the key decision factors for which someone should adopt
> PubSubHubbub (or not!).
>     I believe we should ask to those who implementation. I see obvious
> advantages : bandwidth savings, realtime, federation synchronization...
>
> 2) List all the apps who massively poll feeds and maybe try to get in touch
> with all of these guys to see how we could convince them to use
> PubSubHubbub.
>     Maybe we should ask those services who host a lot of feeds to check
> their HTTP logs and see what are the UserAgents polling their feeds? I know
> for example that the following companies do poll feeds : LinkedIn, Tumblr,
> Facebook, Netvibes, ... but I'm pretty sure there is a ton of other smaller
> services too.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Julien
>
>
>

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