+1

Exactly!

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Bob Wyman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Julien,
> I think your ideas are good, but I would like to suggest that one thing that
> could get more people using PSHB is if we were to encourage people to think
> of it as infrastructure that enables whole new kinds of applications rather
> than just a improvement on the efficiency of polling for blog and microblog
> updates. Frankly, the blog/micro-blog space is pretty densely occupied and
> the opportunities to find and exploit under-served niches are limited or at
> least hard to discover. Thus, I think that people who are looking to
> successfully invest effort in the "next billion dollar idea" are likely to
> be the ones that figure out how to use this infrastructure in new and, as
> yet, unanticipated ways.
> I am particularly excited by the ability to build real-time event driven
> applications that are more focused on "structured data" events rather than
> just dissemination of blobs of text. Some examples of structured objects
> that could be distributed as Atom entries via PSHB: Offers-To-Sell,
> Offers-To-Buy, Pricing data (i.e. products, stocks, etc.), "location"
> related data, Weather data, "sensor" data of many kinds, job-openings
> (Offers-To-Hire), or resumes (Offers-To-Be-Hired), updates to all kinds of
> databases (semantic or otherwise), "Calendar" events, etc... But, I'm sure
> I've missed the really interesting thing...
> bob wyman
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Julien Genestoux
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Ciao!
>> A few days ago I was reminded of what initially happend with OpenID.
>> Everybody thought it was great, and, after some time, a lot of services
>> became providers but not so many of them became consumers. It has changed,
>> but I believe we still have a very high producer/consumer ratio.
>> Today, I am mostly concerned that PubSubHubbub is kind of following the
>> same curve. We pretty much have all the big blogging plateforms using
>> PubSubHubbub, we have several and services like feedburner make this quite
>> ubiquitous for other feeds.
>> The "consumer" part is also quite impressive, but I would argue that it is
>> a little bit less strong. Of course, Google represents a massive subscriber
>> but we need more. My question is relatively simple : how could we get more
>> subscribers to adopt PubSubHubbub?
>> I think there are 2 things we should work on :
>> 1) Find what are the key decision factors for which someone should adopt
>> PubSubHubbub (or not!).
>>     I believe we should ask to those who implementation. I see obvious
>> advantages : bandwidth savings, realtime, federation synchronization...
>> 2) List all the apps who massively poll feeds and maybe try to get in
>> touch with all of these guys to see how we could convince them to use
>> PubSubHubbub.
>>     Maybe we should ask those services who host a lot of feeds to check
>> their HTTP logs and see what are the UserAgents polling their feeds? I know
>> for example that the following companies do poll feeds : LinkedIn, Tumblr,
>> Facebook, Netvibes, ... but I'm pretty sure there is a ton of other smaller
>> services too.
>> What do you guys think?
>> Julien
>>
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