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Percy Baker

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Roman <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 to everything Julien wrote. Subscribers shouldn't rely on the hub doing
> automatic renewals.
>
> I should also add that we are rolling out a new version of
> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com. It has quite a few bug fixes including correct
> handling of subscription expiration. That's why you may see many of your
> subscriptions suddenly expiring.
>
> Roman.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Julien Genestoux
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> As of 0.3, the best practice is to not rely on the hub to renew
>> susbcriptions pro-actively.
>> Some hubs (like Superfeedr) will just send confirmation again when the
>> renewal date approaches... and some other (like the Google Hub)
>> will rely only on the subscriber's renewal.
>>
>> For 0.4 we took the same approach: subscriptions belong to subscribers, so
>> they should make sure they're in order... It is relatively easy for
>> hubs to keep track of expiration and poke the subscribers too, but it's
>> also quite costly for "dead" feeds to which someone may stay subscribed.
>>
>> At Superfeedr, we're thinking about including a X-... header to
>> notifications as a way indicate when a subscription will expire. This will
>> be useful for subscribers to renew their subscriptions, while still "garbage
>> collect" dead feeds which will never trigger any notification. For our
>> paying customers, we also have an option to be notified on broken feeds, and
>> have a policy to never explicitly expire subscriptions...
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> --
>> Julien Genestoux
>> http://superfeedr.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM, DCreemer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi-
>>>
>>> I currently have several 10's of thousands of subscriptions active on
>>> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com, superfeedr, wordpress, and other hubs. Starting on
>>> Feb 6, I noticed that most of my subscriptions from pubsubhubbub.appspot.com
>>> stopped posting updates (other hubs continue just fine). Using the
>>> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com web ui, I noticed that many of the feeds I spot
>>> checked have an expiration time in the past (i.e. are expired). I see
>>> through recent messages on the group that the status of hub.lease_seconds is
>>> changing, and that it may not have been supported on the Google hub anyway.
>>> My endpoints currently see and correctly handle hub-initiated lease renewal
>>> requests.
>>>
>>> What is the current suggested best-practice for renewal (on both 0.3 and
>>> 0.4 spec hubs)? Should I always initiate re-subscriptions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -- David
>>>
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