arg! -- "Julien" -- sorry!.

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:30:54 AM UTC-8, DCreemer wrote:
>
> Thanks Julian & Roman --
>
> I appreciate both the help and the services.
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:14:25 AM UTC-8, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>
>> +1 to everything Julien wrote. Subscribers shouldn't rely on the hub 
>> doing automatic renewals.
>>
>> I should also add that we are rolling out a new version of 
>> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com. It has quite a few bug fixes including correct 
>> handling of subscription expiration. That's why you may see many of your 
>> subscriptions suddenly expiring.
>>
>> Roman.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Julien Genestoux 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> As of 0.3, the best practice is to not rely on the hub to renew 
>>> susbcriptions pro-actively. 
>>> Some hubs (like Superfeedr) will just send confirmation again when the 
>>> renewal date approaches... and some other (like the Google Hub) 
>>> will rely only on the subscriber's renewal.
>>>
>>> For 0.4 we took the same approach: subscriptions belong to subscribers, 
>>> so they should make sure they're in order... It is relatively easy for
>>> hubs to keep track of expiration and poke the subscribers too, but it's 
>>> also quite costly for "dead" feeds to which someone may stay subscribed.
>>>
>>> At Superfeedr, we're thinking about including a X-... header to 
>>> notifications as a way indicate when a subscription will expire. This will 
>>> be useful for subscribers to renew their subscriptions, while still 
>>> "garbage collect" dead feeds which will never trigger any notification. For 
>>> our paying customers, we also have an option to be notified on broken 
>>> feeds, and have a policy to never explicitly expire subscriptions... 
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julien Genestoux
>>> http://superfeedr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM, DCreemer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi-
>>>>
>>>> I currently have several 10's of thousands of subscriptions active on 
>>>> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com, superfeedr, wordpress, and other hubs. 
>>>> Starting on Feb 6, I noticed that most of my subscriptions from 
>>>> pubsubhubbub.appspot.com stopped posting updates (other hubs continue 
>>>> just fine). Using the pubsubhubbub.appspot.com web ui, I noticed that 
>>>> many of the feeds I spot checked have an expiration time in the past (i.e. 
>>>> are expired). I see through recent messages on the group that the status 
>>>> of 
>>>> hub.lease_seconds is changing, and that it may not have been supported on 
>>>> the Google hub anyway. My endpoints currently see and correctly handle 
>>>> hub-initiated lease renewal requests.
>>>>
>>>> What is the current suggested best-practice for renewal (on both 0.3 
>>>> and 0.4 spec hubs)? Should I always initiate re-subscriptions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -- David
>>>>
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