Thanks for the link. So in terms on 0.3 compatibility, the main things to 
be aware of are async subscription verification only and no auto-renewals? 
Anything else?

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:43:31 PM UTC-4, Julien wrote:
>
> Kireet,
>
> You can find the news version of the spec at 
> https://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html
> You'll see that there are several changes, but I suspect the Google Hub 
> (like Superfeedr's) will keep support for both 
> version.
> The major goal of 0.4 was to add support for any type of data format (not 
> just feeds), but also provide a mechanism which opens up the door for 
> private/protected feeds.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Kireet <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> is there a quick cheat sheet of the breaking changes somewhere?
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2013 10:40:10 AM UTC-4, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Singpolyma <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 7:02 am, Roman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > The hub-initiated automatic subscription renewals are no longer 
>>>> supported
>>>> > by the Google Hub. It's a breaking change in the 0.4 specification.
>>>>
>>>> The 0.4 spec is not linked to from the official google code page.
>>>> Where is the spec hosted?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's at https://superfeedr-misc.s3.**amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-**
>>> core-0.4.html<https://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html>.
>>>  
>>> It'll become "official" later this month.
>>>
>>> On further thought: what was the reasoning behind this change?  I've
>>>> gone back and read some discussions of the changes in this group, and
>>>> haven't seen anything about this one specifically.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The hub-initiated automatic refresh was prone to accumulating garbage 
>>> subscriptions on the hubs. It was also giving the subscribers the false 
>>> sense of robustness. What if the hub is unable to reach you when it tries 
>>> to refresh your subscription? Will you be OK with that subscription being 
>>> lost? In practice, the subscribers are usually not OK with that and want to 
>>> be in control of their subscriptions. Also pretty much any subscriber needs 
>>> to store all subscriptions in a persistent storage anyway, so it's not too 
>>> hard to periodically issue resubscription requests for subscriptions that 
>>> need to be extended.
>>>
>>> Is there a good "upgrading your subscriber from 0.3" post somewhere to
>>>> tell me what I need to add support for?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not yet. Although there are several breaking changes in 0.4 (e.g., the 
>>> absence of 'sync' subscription requests), Google Hub is mostly backwards 
>>> compatible. The only thing that has actually changed in a 
>>> potentially-user-breaking-way is the one you noticed -- the hub no longer 
>>> initiates resubscription requests on its own.
>>>  
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
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