On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Kireet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the link. So in terms on 0.3 compatibility, the main things to
> be aware of are async subscription verification only and no auto-renewals?
> Anything else?


I think that's it. In other words, if your subscriber is 0.3 compliant and
it doesn't rely on permanent subscriptions or sync verification, you can
safely talk to 0.4 hubs.

Roman.

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:43:31 PM UTC-4, Julien wrote:
>
>> Kireet,
>>
>> You can find the news version of the spec at https://superfeedr-misc.s3.*
>> *amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-**core-0.4.html<https://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html>
>> You'll see that there are several changes, but I suspect the Google Hub
>> (like Superfeedr's) will keep support for both
>> version.
>> The major goal of 0.4 was to add support for any type of data format (not
>> just feeds), but also provide a mechanism which opens up the door for
>> private/protected feeds.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Kireet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> is there a quick cheat sheet of the breaking changes somewhere?
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2013 10:40:10 AM UTC-4, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Singpolyma <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 7:02 am, Roman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > The hub-initiated automatic subscription renewals are no longer
>>>>> supported
>>>>> > by the Google Hub. It's a breaking change in the 0.4 specification.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 0.4 spec is not linked to from the official google code page.
>>>>> Where is the spec hosted?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's at https://superfeedr-misc.s3.****amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-**cor
>>>> **e-0.4.html<https://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html>.
>>>> It'll become "official" later this month.
>>>>
>>>> On further thought: what was the reasoning behind this change?  I've
>>>>> gone back and read some discussions of the changes in this group, and
>>>>> haven't seen anything about this one specifically.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The hub-initiated automatic refresh was prone to accumulating garbage
>>>> subscriptions on the hubs. It was also giving the subscribers the false
>>>> sense of robustness. What if the hub is unable to reach you when it tries
>>>> to refresh your subscription? Will you be OK with that subscription being
>>>> lost? In practice, the subscribers are usually not OK with that and want to
>>>> be in control of their subscriptions. Also pretty much any subscriber needs
>>>> to store all subscriptions in a persistent storage anyway, so it's not too
>>>> hard to periodically issue resubscription requests for subscriptions that
>>>> need to be extended.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a good "upgrading your subscriber from 0.3" post somewhere to
>>>>> tell me what I need to add support for?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not yet. Although there are several breaking changes in 0.4 (e.g., the
>>>> absence of 'sync' subscription requests), Google Hub is mostly backwards
>>>> compatible. The only thing that has actually changed in a
>>>> potentially-user-breaking-way is the one you noticed -- the hub no longer
>>>> initiates resubscription requests on its own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
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