On 07/17/2012 07:29 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote:
[x-posting back to pulseaudio-discuss since it's relevant to both lists]
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 09:38 +1200, Matthew Gregan wrote:
I'm investigating an issue in Firefox's audio code when the PulseAudio ALSA
plugin is in use. I posted about this on pulseaudio-discuss last week
(http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2012-July/014091.html),
but I hoped I might have more success here.
Firefox requests a particular latency (100ms, 4410 frames at 44.1kHz) via
snd_pcm_set_params. Inside the plugin (pcm_pulse.c:pulse_hw_params), that
value is used to set up buffer_attr. When the PA stream is connected in
pcm_pulse.c:pulse_prepare, PA may configure the stream with larger
buffer_attr values (e.g. because the minimum sink latency has increased over
time due to underruns on the server, or because the sink hardware doesn't
support lower latency), but this isn't reflected in pcm->buffer_attr or
higher layers in ALSA (i.e. pcm->buffer_size is not updated).
100 ms of latency is a lot, even for PulseAudio - is this some special
hardware?
The problem I'm faced with is that there doesn't appear to be a way to
detect and handle this issue at the ALSA API level, and requesting a too low
latency results in broken audio playback rather than a PCM setup failure or
a larger buffer than requested being used.
In the case of the PA server's minimum latency increasing over time, this
also means that a stream that was configured and running correctly may break
while running if PA increases the minimum latency above what the PCM was
originally configured with.
I've attached a simple testcase that uses snd_pcm_wait,
snd_pcm_avail_update, and snd_pcm_writei. Run it with a latency argument
specified in milliseconds on the command line. For my local machine, 55ms
works and 54ms fails immediately like so:
snd_pcm_wait wakes
snd_pcm_avail_update returns 4410
snd_pcm_writei writes 4410
snd_pcm_wait wakes immediately
snd_pcm_avail_update returns -EPIPE
Could you clarify what versions of PulseAudio and alsa-plugins you're
using? The latest improvement to this handling was done less than a year
ago and might require the latest versions of these components.
(Note that when I reported this on pulseaudio-discuss, my server's minimum
latency was 45ms, and now pacmd list-sinks | grep configured\ latency
reports a minimum latency of 56ms)
I'd expect to see one of the following behaviours instead:
1. PCM setup fails due to requesting a too small buffer.
2. Buffer is silently raised during setup and snd_pcm_avail_update requests
the correct number of frames.
I think the better solution would be nr 2 in this case. Nr 1 won't solve
the case where the sink's latency is increased dynamically - because the
stream is moved, for example.
Presumably this could be achieved by having the PA plugin report valid
values from pcm_pulse.c:pulse_hw_constraint, but I'm not sure how to query
the necessary values from the server. This also wouldn't address the
problem where the buffer_attr changes over time, and I'm not sure what to do
about that case.
The necessary values are available via pa_stream_get_buffer_attr().
Potentially we could use this in the pulse_pointer() function to update
the corresponding snd_pcm_t's period/buffer sizes, but I don't know if
this is kosher with regards to what alsa-lib expects plugins to be
doing.
If this is not sufficient for the initial update, from what I can see,
snd_pcm_set_params() first sets period/buffer sizes, queries them for
later calculations, and then commits them with snd_pcm_hw_params(). If
we could move the querying to after the params are committed (and in
this case, the stream is connected and buffer attributes are
negotiated), that would solve your problem. Again, I'm not sure what
side-effects this might have, but I've attached a draft untested patch
for it.
I don't know either - and it also does not seem to solve the case where
the sink's latency is suddenly increased (e g, when the sink input is
moved to another sink).
--
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
https://launchpad.net/~diwic
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