On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, at 01:29 AM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> On 8/18/16 11:43 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> >     Hello,
> >
> > For a number of years already, PulseAudio has supported a concept of sink
> > inputs with multiple formats. That is meant to support S/PDIF output in
> > addition to PCM.
> >
> > One thing I´m wondering... what is the expected behaviour for an application
> > to negotiate non-PCM format for a stream? Specifically, if the application
> > supports IEC 61937, should it always offer the relevant format (in addition 
> > to
> > PCM fallback) when creating the stream? Or should it do so only if the user
> > has somehow enabled that feature?
> >
> > In other words, is PulseAudio supposed to know if IEC 61937 will actually
> > work, or is it merely naively listing the formats that the sound card 
> > allows,
> > without regards to adequate speaker presence?
> 
> The sound card itself only pushes the compressed format on HDMI or 
> SPDIF, it doesn't really know what formats are embedded in the payload. 
> To know what the receiver supports once can read the EDID/ELD 
> information, but this is only for HDMI/DP and not for SPDIF, and it's 
> often corrupted/invalid. If I remember well the solution is to let the 
> user specify what formats work rather than guessing or relying on 
> invalid data.

That's correct. We do not offer these formats on the sink unless the
user has explicitly signalled that they are available (via options in
pavucontrol or via pactl on the command line).

The current status is also that the user needs to explicitly switch to a
digital audio profile if the card also supports an analog profile.
Having a policy module to automatically select a profile to allow
matching non-PCM formats might make sense under some circumstances.

-- Arun
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