On 03.10.2017 14:58, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:

Also, it's questionable why the list-handlers command is implemented
with the messaging API in the first place. It's core functionality, so
why is it not implemented using the normal introspection API?
Two reasons:

a) It's much simpler than using the introspection API
Ok, but didn't we agree earlier that the messaging API is only meant
for modules, and new core features shall be added using the existing
API conventions? The rationale, if you've forgotten it, was that it's
annoying for application developers if the core API uses inconsistent
conventions and introspection functionality needs to be searched from
two different places.

I might accept it if you put the client-facing bits in the
introspection API, but use the messaging system behind the scenes. If
you want pursue that route, I'd like get an ok from Arun as well. This
is not only about the list-handlers message, it's about all future core
features.

Another possibility is to deprecate the whole introspection API and
reimplement it using the messaging API, but you probably don't want to
take such a big project.

b) We should at least have one example in the code
which shows how a message handler is implemented.
It's certainly good to have an example now so that we can discuss how
the message parameter serialization is supposed to work, but I don't
think we need to apply that example to master. I hope we'll have some
other example by the time 12.0 is released (IIRC, you plan to add a
message handler to module-loopback), but it's not a big deal if there
are no examples.

Finally I found some time to work again on the message patches.

There is a third reason why I think getting the message handlers
should be implemented using the message API:
The message delivers information about the message API itself
and the information should be accessible via that API.

So is it OK if I keep the message handler implementation (provided
that the handler returns a more "machine readable" format)? Or will
you reject it?
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