On May 8, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Sam Rowe wrote:

>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Luke Kanies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The bug tracker isn't that great, I must say.
>
> Man am I glad to read that. I completely agree.
>
> This seems like a separate issue though. What's being considered for
> this? Bugzilla? It's the only one I've seen that doesn't suck, but
> there's always new stuff out there.

I think James has mostly decided on Redmine.

I can't stand Bugzilla.  It's very functional, but it's a huge pile of  
unmaintainable and largely unmtained junk code, from what I can tell.

> Yea, I too am a MediaWiki fanboy and it's untrue that there aren't
> other parsers for it (http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Wiki_Mediawiki
> for example). There's also http://wiki.opengarden.org/Deki_Wiki Which
> is getting a lot of positive WoM lately.
>
> We use MediaWiki for our internal documentation and are very very
> happy with its featureset. While it's true that Wikis don't impose
> structure, that doesn't mean you can't have wiki-nazis that organize
> things for you. I have the great luck of being that person at my work
> and would love to volunteer to help with the puppet one, but having
> just lost 2/12 of our team (and the exact wrong two) we're completely
> crushed.
>
> If you really want to solve the format conversion problem, I think
> wikis aren't the way to go. In researching this stuff for my own
> projects, it seems like, as horrid as it is, Docbook is the best thing
> going. And also, it seems like if you get a wiki/whatever you like,
> problem solved. While it'd be great to have off-line docs, they aren't
> (obviously) essential.

But if we just pick a common format, most of that becomes pretty easy.

I'm still pretty uncomfortable with MediaWiki; it, like BugZilla,  
seems to somehow be successful even though the code base is pretty  
heinous, from what I've heard. I know it has a lot of great features,  
but we don't need most of them, and I really want a consistent, third- 
party format.

I think it's decided to stick with RST; it's just a question of how to  
do so.

-- 
Take the utmost trouble to find the right thing to say, and then say
it with the utmost levity. -- George Bernard Shaw
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