On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Nigel Kersten wrote:

>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Luke Kanies <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Nigel Kersten wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> That I see.  If you're just downloading facts from the server to  
>>>> set
>>>> the environment, though, how is that fundamentally different from  
>>>> the
>>>> server owning what environment the client belongs to?
>>>
>>> The facts look at local configuration on the client such as the
>>> debconf datastore or a property list.
>>>
>>>>  Are your facts
>>>> just simple strings, or are they making complicated calculations
>>>> based
>>>> on something on the client?
>>>
>>> It's not particularly complicated.
>>>
>>> It works out whether it's a Mac, Linux or Solaris box.
>>> It works out whether it's a desktop, laptop or server
>>> It works out whether the owner of the machine has decided to  
>>> configure
>>> this machine to use unstable or testing.
>>
>>
>> So you've got different environments for different platforms, then?
>> Did you do that for scaling reasons, or just because the code for  
>> them
>> is that different, or what?
>
> Ah. So that each relevant team can control their own release process
> and follow their own schedule.
>
> We all commit to a common development "environment" that is only used
> for the most close to the metal development testing.
>
> Then each team chooses to integrate from the common development
> environment to their own unstable environment on their own schedule.
> They then control the integration from unstable->testing and
> testing->stable.
>
> We only commit to the common dev environment.

That all seems great.  I just don't get where it changes on a given  
host.

>> There's definitely some critical concept missing here...
>
> was that it ? :) I'm a bit flat out today, but happy to jump on a
> phone or do it in IRC if we need more of a back and forth conversation
> about this.

A call might be helpful.  Ping me on IRC?

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