On Apr 7, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Jason Slagle wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Burkholder, Peter wrote:
>
>>> That's not how the model tends to work though.  Usually the
>>> paid community gets the product first with the community
>>> version lagging behind by a release.
>>
>> Huh?  Not in Red Hat's model:
>>
>> Fedora -> RHEL
>> JOPR -> JON
>> Spacewalk -> Satellite.
>>
>> The community version leads, not lags.
>
> Different operating model than the ones I'm thinking of.  Things like
> zmanda as pointed out where the commercial version will get features  
> or
> other items not yet present in the community edition.
>
> Groundwork monitor seems to follow a similiar model.

I can't speak for zmanda, but IMO Groundwork is more of a horrible  
warning than a good example.  AFAICT they basically founded the  
company as a way to make money from open source without going through  
the minor bother of actually writing any.

My understanding is that they've gotten better in recent years, and I  
don't know enough about them to be really mean, but if Puppet ever did  
have an "enterprise" edition (which is pretty unlikely) it would  
always look a lot more like RHEL than, um, the other stuff.   
Enterprises like it slow and stable. :)

>
> It's more appropriate to new features, but thats where your bugs  
> tend to
> come from.
>
> And you're not exactly right.
>
> Spacewalk was just born from satellite.  The open source version  
> lagged by
> years.

It's more appropriate to say that Satellite was only recently open- 
sourced.

>
> Similiar story with GFS, directory server, etc.  The features went  
> in the
> commercial product first.  Only later were they opened up.  If you
> consider them as addons to redhat, it makes the story similiar there.
>
> The "Core" would lag, but the add ons bolted on would lead.  Those  
> addons
> will be the things with bugs.
>
> Luke has expressed a disinterest in this model though so it's largely
> irrelevant.


I will say, I'm a lot less sure about the future revenue models than I  
was when I started.

At this point, I'm mostly interested in clarity, with a much smaller  
focus on our long term revenue.  I just don't want to make stupid  
decisions here that hurt our ability to grow Puppet in the long term.

-- 
I'm worried about Bart. Today, he's sucking people's blood,
tommorrow he might be smoking. -Marge Simpson
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