jaromil said : > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 12:25:22PM +0100, Dan S wrote: > > 2010/10/5 jaromil <[email protected]>: > > > > > >> > I guess that was the factors that pushed p:d devs to use XFCE as a > > >> > default environment in the not-so-distant past, and some of those > > >> > are still vital nowadays. > > >> > > >> Yup :) > > > > > > don't you guys remember we had XFCE on dyne:bolic already? > > > > But Lukasz said dyne:bolic used fluxbox by default, I'm guessing he is > > correct? The issue is defaultness, not availability. > > yes. XFCE hass been default in dyne:bolic since version 2.4.2 - before > pure:dyne ever existed. just a detail, among some others that were > neglected, you can see it in the News section on http://dynebolic.org > dated march 2007.
Talking about sharing research, we switched desktops based on a poll back in 2006 http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2006-September/000721.html At some point Alejo mentioned XFCE and the existence of a dyne module, although dyne:bolic was still using Wmaker if I recall correctly. Still in 2006, I made a newer XFCE module, based on the 4.4RC1 so that everyone using the beta pure:dyne could test it. We got enough feedback to see it as a serious candidate: http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2006-September/000747.html The point is that these discussions helped everyone to evaluate this desktop and see it as a good candidate for the default desktop on both our systems. Looking back I think it was a good decision, even though XFCE got a bit heavier with the years. > > Would be interested to know, btw, what you think of LXDE, since it's > > so fecking fashionable these days. Everyone who uses XFCE gets the > > question "why aren't you using LXDE" which is a bit frustrating... > > premise about working together: last time we were open to share our > research with Bel Ami was about migration of dyne:III to Debian and a > few months after we've seen public announcements as "pure:dyne > abandons dyne:bolic for debian"... This is correct I met you in Amsterdam to talk about pure:dyne, debian and Ubuntu. The agreement was that the puredyne dev would start a debian repository and new iso on their own and that you will keep in touch with us. At the time you were very busy and could not invest much energy on dyne:III anyway. You were also considering stopping maintaining the project and focus on other things, which is of course fine but was a problem for us who wanted to update pure:dyne and were stuck for almost a year with the same issues. http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2007-February/001075.html Which is why Heather, Marloes, Rob, Karsten, Claude, Chun, Anton and myself had met in London a few months *before* this meeting with you, to talk about the fact that pure:dyne had diverged a lot from dyne:II and to decide if we wanted to keep on waiting for dyne:III or fork as we were already only working in our own branch of dyne:II, on a different code repos and stopped syncing with your core and SDK. This was a scary decision of course as making a distro from scratch VS hacking an existing core was a big jump. Scary but exciting too :) The discussion started by looking at making our own core based on LFS/BLFS live scripts but we also did a distro tour to check what was available, and this is how we discovered Debian's live helper project, fell in love with it and unanimously decided to use it for what we called at the time pure:dyne-ng. The motivation was also to see that our packages could be used by people outside of Puredyne itself. Since then, it is sad to see that you keep a bitter memory of it and keep pointing finger at me. In the past two years, I offered you to meet or call several times, without response from you. The invitation is still up. > however, as mentioned in this > thread, i'm still very much in favour to share research with > pure:dyne. It's free software, patches are welcome Jaromil, lots to do as you can see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/puredyne a. -- http://su.kuri.mu --- [email protected] http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
