Could you guys wash your laundry more privy? :P
Lower your blood pressure, raise glucose level. You all have been
doing a terrific job.

Cheers,
Luke

2010/10/5 Aymeric Mansoux <[email protected]>:
> jaromil said :
>> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 12:25:22PM +0100, Dan S wrote:
>> > 2010/10/5 jaromil <[email protected]>:
>> > >
>> > >> > I guess that was the factors that pushed p:d devs to use XFCE as a
>> > >> > default environment in the not-so-distant past, and some of those
>> > >> > are still vital nowadays.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yup :)
>> > >
>> > > don't you guys remember we had XFCE on dyne:bolic already?
>> >
>> > But Lukasz said dyne:bolic used fluxbox by default, I'm guessing he is
>> > correct? The issue is defaultness, not availability.
>>
>> yes. XFCE hass been default in dyne:bolic since version 2.4.2 - before
>> pure:dyne ever existed. just a detail, among some others that were
>> neglected, you can see it in the News section on http://dynebolic.org
>> dated march 2007.
>
> Talking about sharing research, we switched desktops based on a poll
> back in 2006
> http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2006-September/000721.html
>
> At some point Alejo mentioned XFCE and the existence of a dyne module,
> although dyne:bolic was still using Wmaker if I recall correctly.
>
> Still in 2006, I made a newer XFCE module, based on the 4.4RC1 so that
> everyone using the beta pure:dyne could test it. We got enough feedback
> to see it as a serious candidate:
> http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2006-September/000747.html
>
> The point is that these discussions helped everyone to evaluate this
> desktop and see it as a good candidate for the default desktop on both
> our systems. Looking back I think it was a good decision, even though
> XFCE got a bit heavier with the years.
>
>
>> > Would be interested to know, btw, what you think of LXDE, since it's
>> > so fecking fashionable these days. Everyone who uses XFCE gets the
>> > question "why aren't you using LXDE" which is a bit frustrating...
>>
>> premise about working together: last time we were open to share our
>> research with Bel Ami was about migration of dyne:III to Debian and a
>> few months after we've seen public announcements as "pure:dyne
>> abandons dyne:bolic for debian"...
>
> This is correct I met you in Amsterdam to talk about pure:dyne, debian
> and Ubuntu. The agreement was that the puredyne dev would start a debian
> repository and new iso on their own and that you will keep in touch with
> us. At the time you were very busy and could not invest much energy on
> dyne:III anyway. You were also considering stopping maintaining the
> project and focus on other things, which is of course fine but was a
> problem for us who wanted to update pure:dyne and were stuck for almost
> a year with the same issues.
> http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/puredyne/2007-February/001075.html
>
> Which is why Heather, Marloes, Rob, Karsten, Claude, Chun, Anton and
> myself had met in London a few months *before* this meeting with you, to
> talk about the fact that pure:dyne had diverged a lot from dyne:II and
> to decide if we wanted to keep on waiting for dyne:III or fork as we
> were already only working in our own branch of dyne:II, on a different
> code repos and stopped syncing with your core and SDK. This was a scary
> decision of course as making a distro from scratch VS hacking an
> existing core was a big jump. Scary but exciting too :)
>
> The discussion started by looking at making our own core based on
> LFS/BLFS live scripts but we also did a distro tour to check what was
> available, and this is how we discovered Debian's live helper project,
> fell in love with it and unanimously decided to use it for what we
> called at the time pure:dyne-ng. The motivation was also to see that our
> packages could be used by people outside of Puredyne itself.
>
> Since then, it is sad to see that you keep a bitter memory of it and
> keep pointing finger at me. In the past two years, I offered you to meet
> or call several times, without response from you. The invitation is
> still up.
>
>
>> however, as mentioned in this
>> thread, i'm still very much in favour to share research with
>> pure:dyne.
>
> It's free software, patches are welcome Jaromil, lots to do as you can
> see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/puredyne
>
>
> a.
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