Hi guys / Arjen. My windows server performance is definitely much better now , I will try more cpu combinations, and have last question regarding this ? Is there some documentation about this ? how can I analize and choose my cpu setting ? About performances testing: Is there some recommended way to benchmark cpu settings ? Thanks guys for your help. (let me know if you came to mendoza ... I will glad to invite you dinner). Leandro.
El lun, 29 mar 2021 a las 11:47, Arjen via pve-user (< pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribió: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arjen <leeste...@protonmail.ch> > To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:46:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram usage > On Monday, March 29th, 2021 at 16:30, Leandro Roggerone < > lean...@tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote: > > > Dear Arjen , nice data you provided , im trying it right now. > > > > > BTW , after installing virtIO drivers , memory usage looks ok on the > > > > > proxmox gui (very nice!). > > > > > Regarding CPU layout , I understood this: > > > > > I should use just one socket , so in my case would be 1socket x 6 cores , > > > > > total 6 vCPUs. > > > > > If I notice that cpu usage goes high , lets suppose over 85% , I should > add > > > > > a second socket and enable NUMA. > > That CPU has 12 threads (right?), so you can try up to 12 vCPUs. And > select 'host' or a CPU type that is close to your physical CPU instead of > the kvm64 default. Maybe enabling NUMA helps even with less virtual cores, > just try it and compare performance. If you enable NUMA, choose the same > number of virtual sockets as real sockets (=2). Remember that the amount of > vCPUs is cores multiplied by the number of sockets. Maybe you can try 6x1 > or 3x2 or 12x1 or 6x2 and see which performs the best? > > > I will change ide for scsi as you suggested. > > > > > No problem if I need to re install OS. > > You can find the Windows drivers for VirtIO here: > > https://fedorapeople.org/groups/virt/virtio-win/direct-downloads/archive-virtio/virtio-win-0.1.185-2/ > > > Regards. > > > > > Leandro. > > > > > El lun, 29 mar 2021 a las 10:57, Arjen via pve-user (< > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribió: > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > From: Arjen leeste...@protonmail.ch > > > > > > > To: Proxmox VE user list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > > Bcc: > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 13:56:59 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram usage > > > > > > > On Monday, March 29th, 2021 at 15:37, Leandro Roggerone < > > > > > > > lean...@tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi guys , thanks for your words , have some feedback: > > > > > > > > Maybe Proxmox cannot look inside the VM for the actual memory usage > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > the VirtIO balloon driver is not installed or active? Or maybe the > other > > > > > > > > 90% is in use as Windows file cache? > > > > > > > > I think so ... > > > > > > > > Dont know about windows file cache ... > > > > > > > > Have you installed the VirtIO drivers for Windows? Are you assigning > too > > > > > > > > many vCPUs or memory? Can you share the VM configuration file? Can > you > > > > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > us something about your Proxmox hardware and version? > > > > > > > > No , I have not ... now you mentioned im reading about VirtIO , I > will > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > to install and let you know how it goes > > > > > > > > Should install it no my pve box or directly inside windows vm ? > > > > > > > > I'm assigning max vCPUs abailables (24 , 4 sockets 6 cores) and 32gb > for > > > > > > > > memory. > > > > > > > > (I really don't know about any criteria to assign vcpus) > > > > > > > > This is VM config file: > > > > > > > > root@pve:~# cat /etc/pve/nodes/pve/qemu-server/107.conf > > > > > > > > bootdisk: ide0 > > > > > > > > cores: 6 > > > > > > > > ide0: local-lvm:vm-107-disk-0,size=150G > > > > > > > > ide1: local-lvm:vm-107-disk-1,size=350G > > > > > > > > ide2: > > > > > > > > local:iso/Windows_Server_2016_Datacenter_EVAL_en-us_14393_refresh.ISO,media=cdrom,size=6808810K > > > > > > > > memory: 32768 > > > > > > > > name: KAIKENII > > > > > > > > net0: e1000=1A:F1:10:BF:92:0A,bridge=vmbr3,firewall=1 > > > > > > > > numa: 0 > > > > > > > > ostype: win10 > > > > > > > > scsihw: virtio-scsi-pci > > > > > > > > smbios1: uuid=daf8f767-59c7-4e87-b3be-75d4a8020c38 > > > > > > > > sockets: 4 > > > > > > > > vmgenid: a7634624-1230-4a3e-9e7c-255d32ad2030 > > > > > > > > My PVE is: > > > > > > > > CPU(s) 24 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5680 @ 3.33GHz (2 Sockets) > > > > > > > > Kernel Version Linux 5.0.15-1-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.0.15-1 (Wed, 03 Jul > 2019 > > > > > > > > 10:51:57 +0200) > > > > > > > > PVE Manager Version pve-manager/6.0-4/2a719255 > > > > > > > > Total Mem = 64GB. > > > > > > > > That's all. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > You are using emulated IDE drives, which is very slow. Please install > the > > > > > > > VirtIO SCSI driver for Windows inside the VM and attach the disk with > > > > > > > (vitual) scsi instead of ide. You might need to reinstall Windows to > make > > > > > > > it boot. Use the VirtIO virtual floppy to install the VirtIO SCSI > driver > > > > > > > when starting the Windows installation setup inside the VM. > > > > > > > Use as little virtual cores and as little memory as is needed (or just > a > > > > > > > little more), this makes the VM run more smoothly. You systems has two > > > > > > > sockets, so you might want to enable NUMA in the VM configuration, > > > > > > > otherwise your VM memory access has to go to the other socket often, > which > > > > > > > is slow. Using just the cores from one of your CPU's (or less) will > perform > > > > > > > better than using all for the same reason of less communication between > > > > > > > physical sockets. > > > > > > > Currently, you have chosen all the slowest options to run this VM on > your > > > > > > > kind of system. Each of the steps above will increase performance. The > > > > > > > VirtIO driver installation is the most work, but also gives the most > > > > > > > performance increase. Selecting 'host' instead of kvm64 will also > improve > > > > > > > performance. > > > > > > > kind regards, Arjen > > > > > > > > El vie, 26 mar 2021 a las 11:40, Arjen via pve-user (< > > > > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribió: > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > > > From: Arjen leeste...@protonmail.ch > > > > > > > > > To: Proxmox VE user list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > > > > Bcc: > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:39:13 +0000 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram > usage > > > > > > > > > On Friday, March 26th, 2021 at 15:28, Leandro Roggerone < > > > > > > > > > lean...@tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys , Just wanted to share this with you. > > > > > > > > > > After creating a VM for a windows sever 2016 with 32 GB ram I can > > > > > > > > > > see continuos high memory usage (about 99-100%). > > > > > > > > > > I have no running task , since it is a fresh server and from task > > > > > > > > > > > > > manager > > > > > > > > > > can see a 10% of memory usage. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding those confusing differences, server performance is very > > > > > > > > > > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > Maybe Proxmox cannot look inside the VM for the actual memory usage > > > > > > > > > because the VirtIO balloon driver is not installed or active? Or > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > other 90% is in use as Windows file cache? > > > > > > > > > > User experience is very poor with a non fluent user interface. > > > > > > > > > > Is there something to do / check to improve this ? > > > > > > > > > Have you installed the VirtIO drivers for Windows? Are you > assigning > > > > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > many vCPUs or memory? Can you share the VM configuration file? Can > you > > > > > > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > > us something about your Proxmox hardware and version? > > > > > > > > > > Any advice would be welcome. > > > > > > > > > Maybe search the forum for similar Windows performance questions? > > > > > > > > https://forum.proxmox.com/forums/proxmox-ve-installation-and-configuration.16/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > best of luck, Arjen > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > > > From: Arjen via pve-user pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > > > To: Proxmox VE user list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > > > Cc: Arjen leeste...@protonmail.ch > > > > > > > > > Bcc: > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:39:13 +0000 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram > usage > > > > > > > > > pve-user mailing list > > > > > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > > > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > > > > > > > > pve-user mailing list > > > > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > From: Arjen via pve-user pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > To: Proxmox VE user list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > Cc: Arjen leeste...@protonmail.ch > > > > > > > Bcc: > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 13:56:59 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram usage > > > > > > > pve-user mailing list > > > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > > > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > > > > > pve-user mailing list > > > > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > > > > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arjen via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > Cc: Arjen <leeste...@protonmail.ch> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:46:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Windows sever 2016 vm with very high ram usage > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > _______________________________________________ pve-user mailing list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
