(bcc'ing ben - again, because pyjamasdev's mailing software doesn't accept cc's)
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jeffrey Van Voorst <[email protected]> wrote: > Are you referring to a PHB that doesn't understand or cannot correctly > answer how, what, when, where questions about his group's own > software? :) that's not true, jeffrey :) the thing is that - luckily (thank god), they _can_ actually articulate succinctly what the state of the group's software is. much better than i can bloody well describe how it's _not_ doing the job that's needed for pyjamas desktop [any more]. so i can clearly assess that they're not aware of the implications, and don't know how their software can and is being used (successfully, for a given value of success i.e. ok with xulrunner 1.9, 7 and 9 success but bugger all else success), but the silence has been absolutely deafening since i pointed that out. i haven't even managed to get to point out the benefits to the mozilla foundation core team yet of using hulahop as a test ground because i can only surmise - purely from the silence - that they're just pissed at having been told "you're ignorant of how the software is being used". the thing is... if somebody told _me_ that, i'd say "wow, cool! something new for me to learn! tell me more! i'm really excited to hear that you're using the software in ways that i didn't envisage it could be used for. how can i support you and make that easier in any way?" you see the difference? and you know - i know some of you don't like the way that i stick to software freedom principles (but tough...) but you certainly can't say that i don't give people every opportunity to learn for themselves, nor that i don't encourage and support people (as long as they don't take the piss). l.
