W dniu 08.10.2013 01:29, Steve Waterbury pisze:
On 10/07/2013 05:30 PM, Lex Berezhny wrote:
The truth is that Pyjs is a web technology first and foremost. If you
know HTML/CSS sufficiently you can be as or even more productive than
the folks trying to pigeon hole desktop style widget based technologies
onto HTML.

Widgets are nice for prototyping but at the end of the day you should
really learn HTML5/CSS.

I think your "HTML5" == "the latest HTML stuff":
http://clubajax.org/html5-is-dead/
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/
... or just "what the newest browsers actually do". ;)
The best summary of the current state I've seen is here:
https://rawgithub.com/whatwg/html-differences/master/Overview.html
The "Abstract" has it all in 6 sentences.  But the whole document is
great for old-timers like me who need to catch up.

My Django/Pyjamas app makes full use of the widget libraries, along
with lots of CSS and almost zero HTML (

I agree with Lex that maybe pyjs (compiler) should be separated from pyjamas (widget library), but I also believe that widget library is essential, and is thing which will attract more users and more developers.

Simply, "look, you can write in python and it will run javascript" will be never as sexy as "look, you can write nice app with dialogbox just simple as that <simple example>".

And additional thought: I think that pyjd is dead end. Thing which: works on Windows, but doesn't work on Debian, works on Ubuntu but requires downloading some library and compiling it yourself, I don't believe any of my app users would do such things ...

Having ability to run application cross browser/desktop is very useful, but I think it should use toolkits like Qt or wxPython (so some of pyjamas classes would be wrappers on qt/wx classes, in desktop mode).


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