On 4/19/07, Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4/19/07, Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/19/07, Sean Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > There is a discussion on this list called "automatic database
> > > administration tool" that you might want to read.  Pylons does not include
> > > these tools out-of-the-box.
> > >
> > >
> > Although that name is a little misleading as it's really more of a form
> > scaffold generation tool for SA (thus far...) models.
> >
>
> I don't think that the name is misleading. Project's target is to develop
> a controller that provides a ready-to-use component that web-developers
> could add to their applications so their site administrators would be able
> to easily manage database content. Eventually, AdminPylon will support table
> relationship and more site-specific layout settings. It has nothing to do
> with phpMyAdmin or something like that if you think of the word "admin" in
> that context, it's something like Django DB admin tool.


Actually it's the word "database" that's that's throwing me, admin is
totally cool :)  Unless I'm missing the whole point, and I doubt that I am,
you guys are writing code to generate "scaffold" views and controllers for
projects' declared models and models are an abstraction on top of
databases.  For a given nice, consistent model interface, someone should be
able to swap out databases and even replace the underlying data model with
something else altogether (although if your models rely on introspection of
your db to determine their attributes, that last part goes out the window).
Don't get me wrong.  I have really high hopes for you guys as we, at my
company, are getting ready to port our fairly large php4 (sic) app to python
and, knowing that our software lead is really looking for some instant forms
for our data to alleviate having to write sql for random devhelp requests
and reports and the fact that I really want to push pylons (you could say
that after the last week I've spent looking at the docs and code I'm diggin'
it...), once you're done you may be getting some immediate feedback from the
commercial sector (again, hopefully).  You're not writing a database
adminstration piece, you're writing a data administration piece aimed at a
layer above databases.




-- 
Erik Jones
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