without the flush method I'm not to sure that assignmapper saves much in
the way of code, when adding stuff to a database.  I do admit I do like
the simplified syntax that assignmapper affords you for doing qurery's,
and if we are going to keep it with with a query properties that sounds
great to me.

BTW is the save method going to be saved? because that would make things
better.

Jose

Philip Jenvey wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Mike Orr wrote:
>
>
>   
>> Assignmapper is going to be deprecated so I'd recommend not using it
>> in new code.  There were a couple large threads on the sqlalchemy list
>> about it right before SAContext was developed.  Assignmapper hinders
>> the growth of new Query methods because each one would theoretically
>> have to be shadowed in the mapped classes, and the code that grafts
>> those methods in is an ugly monkeypatch.  Plus, every new shadowed
>> method runs the risk of colliding with one of your data attributes
>> someday.  SQLAlchemy 0.4 adds some Query methods that are not
>> shadowed; the ones in assignmapper are essentially frozen as they are.
>>  The biggest assymetry was having.select() but not .filter(), although
>> maybe that one got added at the last moment.  Assignmapper's biggest
>> customer was Exilir but I hear they've since moved away from it.
>> Michael said assignmapper may eventually disappear or parts of it may
>> morph into something else.
>>
>> In spite of all that, sac._session_context should work fine.  If
>> there's enough demand I can make a .session_context property, although
>> I can't say it's sufficiently justified at this point.
>>
>>     
>
> According to Mike and that rather long sqlalchemy-users thread about  
> assign mapper about a month ago, assign mapper itself won't be  
> deprecated. Mike says instead, all of its query methods (.select/.get/ 
> etc) would be removed for using .query().method. The flush method  
> would also be removed.
>
> In that case a sac.session_context property is warranted
>
> I had a couple other comments about SAContext:
>
> o Could we change the PylonsSAContext config file directive key from  
> the redundant 'dburi' to 'uri'? The SAContext constructor's argument  
> is 'uri' too. I don't feel so bad about changing this since coming  
> from pylons.database we've already had to change 'sqlalchemy.' to the  
> preferable 'sqlalchemy.<dbkey>'
>
> o create_session can accept a few arguments, might we want the  
> 'echo_uow' option to be accommodated (or others?) for configuring via  
> SAContext, and via a config file in Pylons? Maybe this is something  
> that can be configured via the logging module, I'm not sure, but then  
> again so is engine's 'echo' option.
>
> If we do want to support this, I suggest a session_options dict in  
> the constructor, or via the config file as:
>
> sqlalchemy.default.session.echo_uow = true
>
> (since everything under sqlalchemy.default is an engine_option)
>
> o How are multiple databases handled? It seems like the SAContext  
> (well, both of the strategies) session is bound to only one engine in  
> both ContextualStrategys. Though SAContext holds dicts of multiple  
> engines/metadatas.
>
> --
> Philip Jenvey
>
>
>
> >
>
>   

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