On 7/4/07, Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are building an end-user application from a web framework that give
> us the freedom to choose the license of our application. Then, what is
> the problem? We are not building a library for Pylons with GPL
> license.

I thought it was a blog component for use in larger Pylons
applications.  To me that's the same as a library.  Inasmuch as it's a
standalone application, I don't care what the license is.  But it was
presented on this list as a solution to the general need for a Pylons
blog component.  All I'm saying is its GPL status prevents it from
fully meeting that need because it can't be used everywhere Pylons
can.  In order to be fully effective, Pylons eventually needs
components for blogging, CRUD, CMS, etc, that can be plugged into
applications. That's why Zope is so popular because it has these
things.   Not in the core, and not necessarily written in Pylons, but
easy to integrate.

> Or perhaps, do you claim that all applications created with Pylons
> have to be MIT or New BSD? If it is like that, say it clearly.

There has been a de facto gentlemen's agreement that Python packages
should be released with a BSD-like license so they can be used
everywhere Python can, especially those that are meant to be imported
into other programs.  There was never a formal "agreement" on this
that I know of but if you look around, 99% of the Python packages that
have been released over the past ten years have been that way.  So
finding a GPL on what I (perhaps mistakenly) thought was a Pylons
component felt like a slap in the face.  I give my code to you with
few restrictions, you give your code to me with larger restrictions
that are not customary in the Python world.  That's what made it feel
so acute, that this was the *first* GPL  Python program I'd
encountered.

Anyway, getting back to Pylons, I can't speak for the core developers,
but I hope that Pylons core dependencies remain GPL free, and that we
discourage major second-tier optional components from being GPL if
they're willing to consider an alternative.

-- 
Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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