On Jan 14, 2008 4:57 AM, Lawrence Oluyede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems that the complexity overcame the reason why extjs exists.
> BTW extjs is too big to be included in pylons and does a hell lot more
> than the standard developer needs (which is basically dom
> manipulation, css selectors and Ajax).
> Am I right?

Yes.  People need to update parts of a page, and some want colorful
special effects, the more the better.
Also, some Javscripts make JS more like Python, which helps in programming it.

Well, JQuery is by far the most popular on the list, and moderately
more popular in the wiki poll, so let's assume we'll be adding it
alongside Prototype/Scriptaculous.  We'll need a maintainer to package
it up for WebHelpers, and also to help decide the common Python
interface to all these libraries.

Are there any important features not in JQuery that we should have?

Robert Leftwich offered to maintain YUI.  It has some popularity among
Pylons users so we might as well.

Let's have the JS maintainers and those who wish to help design the
Pylons Javascript API subscribe to pylons-devel, and we can discuss it
there.
http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-devel

There was a glowing recommendation for Dojo, but it will need a
maintainer if it's to be included.

ExtJS can be added later if enough people clamor for it.  (I think
Mark Ramm was the only person who said he likes it.)  But I was struck
by Christoph Haas' comment, "[With ExtJS] you will write your
application in 90% Javascript and 10% pylons."  Somebody who's writing
a 90% Javascript application probably does not need Pylons, just a
static webserver and something for database queries.

-- 
Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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