The plot thickens: While the 5 minute pause is happening, I can kill
the pylons app, and the last 4 packets are still exchanged between
client and server, albeit 5 minutes later.  Could paste still be
hanging around after I kill the pylons app?

I have had problems in the past when SQLAlchemy encounters a DB error
and when I try to restart my pylons app, I get a "socket.error: (98,
'Address already in use')" exception that starts in SocketServer.py
and bubbles up to paste/serve.py.  And if I do netstat -l at that
point, I see that "something" is listening on my app's port 5004, but
there is no pid or program name there, just a dash. 5 minutes later,
that port no longer has "something" listening on it.

It seems that there is some sort of 5 minute zombie state in paste or
tcp/ip stack.  How could Mysql+SQLAlchemy happenings have this sort of
effect??
The server is running Ubunut 8.04.



On Mar 4, 1:04 pm, Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Using wireshark on the client side, the xmlrpc data is actually
> getting back to the client right away.  Then there is the large pause
> (always right around 5 minutes)
> This is how the conversation goes.  The 5 minute gap appears only when
> using SQLAlchemy w/ MySQL
>
> 1. Last packet that has actual xmlrpc data sent to client
> 2. Client sends packet to server (confirmation ??)
> ----- 5 Minute gap ---------------------------------------------
> 3. Server sends 1 packet to client
> 4. Client sends back 2 packets
> 5. Server sends 1 packet to client
>
> It is the first packet sent by the server *after* the data is
> received  by the client and the client responds that is stalling.
> After the data is received by the client, I assume there needs to be
> some tcp/ip confirmation and such, and that is what the last 4 packets
> being sent between client/server are.  But what is so special about
> this packet that is taking 300 seconds for the server to send?
>
> On Mar 3, 11:17 am, Noah <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 5, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > First off, thanks big time for pointing me towards repoze.profile.  I
> > > have integrated it into my app and love it.
>
> > > The total time for a request without DB stuff is about .855 CPU
> > > seconds
> > > The total time for a request with DB suff is about 1.470 CPU seconds
>
> > > These numbers are saying that the entire pylons request/response cycle
> > > is only taking 1.47sec, but my client sits there waiting for a request
> > > for about a minute, even when the client is being run on the same
> > > machine.  Could the response be getting tied up in the network layer?
> > > Why would my use of SQLAlchemy and Mysql interfere with how long it
> > > takes a response to get sent to a client?
>
> > > I have never looked at network traffic directly before, but it seems
> > > like that is what I need to do next.  I want to find out exactly when
> > > the request is being sent over the wire.  A
>
> > > ny suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> > Wireshark and or strace are miracle workers.
>
> > > On Mar 3, 3:26 pm, Paweł Stradomski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> W liście Bryan z dnia wtorek 03 marca 2009:
>
> > >>> Inside of an XMLRPCController I have a function that inserts items
> > >>> into a database, and returns 'OK' to the client if everything works.
> > >>> Everything runs quickly and correctly, the rows are inserted into  
> > >>> the
> > >>> DB, but pylons hangs for about a minute when generating the  
> > >>> response.
> > >>> The client hangs there waiting for a response while pylons does
> > >>> *something*.
>
> > >> Maybe try to profile your application to check where it spends that  
> > >> time? Try
> > >> repoze.profile.
>
> > >> --
> > >> Paweł Stradomski
>
>
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