On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, John H <[email protected]> wrote:

> Now I find that they've actually release TG2 and that it is built on
> Pylons.

Having used Pylons prior to the launch of the TurboGears2 project, I
became  curious about what TurboGears had to offer.  The press from
the Python Atlanta Conference (June 2007) regarding the collaboration
between TurboGears and Pylons prompted me to explore the TurboGears 1
documentation and tutorials.  Then I watched patiently through the
slow grind of TurboGears2 progress.  I was definitely looking forward
to the functionality that Pylons would pick up through TurboGears.

>From the start, the project was advertised as a re-write of TurboGears
"on top of" Pylons.  Mark Ramm was consistent throughout the project
to distinguish TurboGears2 domains of concern from those concerns
unique to Pylons.  I have been impressed by Mark's technical abilities
and his no-fear approach to re-writing TurboGears.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Chris that the end result is more
like a bastardization of TG1 and Pylons.  I hate what TurboGears2 did
to Routes - it has been the sticking point in my efforts to work with
TurboGears2.  I finally gave up.

At the same time, I feel the collaboration has made Pylons stronger.
Several accommodations were made along the way to clean up Pylons and
to increase cross-pollinization with other Python framework tools.
Jinja2 (which captures much of what is good about Django) has been a
delight to add to the Pylons templates.

Regards,

Bernie Pursley
Simsbury, Ct


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