On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Ben Bangert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Ian Bicking wrote:
>> So, it's about time that WebOb came to 1.0.  For 1.0 I'd like to
>> settle the API as much as possible.  But I'd also like to move further
>> to getting WebOb used for more frameworks.  I don't expect that to
>> happen before 1.0, but if there are API changes that will make that
>> easier later, then maybe we can get those in.
>
> What happened to getting all the fixes and improvements Armin had for
> the Request/Response in Werkzeug into Webob? Is that a 1.1 thing?
> Could we at least get the API more similar for 1.0 even if the bug
> fixes from Werkzeug's Request object aren't pulled in?

I'm not really aware of what those fixes are, or if they apply to
WebOb (I suspect they don't).  If there are specific API differences
where they could be unified, well... we can discuss them.  Talking
with Armin, his biggest concerns have been around handling the request
body (which is tricky at best; Wekzeug is more naive but less likely
to be unperformant; rather it just won't work in these difficult
situations).  If there are nasty situations, I hope they can be fixed
in WebOb, though I'd like to make everything Work, even in cases that
aren't a priority for Wekzeug (mostly related to contention for the
request body, as with middleware).

Another thing Armin specifically mentioned is that he doesn't like
that all WebOb requests are mutable.  He prefers the Werkzeug setup
where the base request object is basically read-only, and there is a
subclass that can be written to.  First, that would be rather hard to
do with WebOb (maybe a read-only flag would be possible, but the
functionality would be there regardless, only explicitly disabled via
a flag), and secondly I don't particular agree with him on this
matter, and I don't think there's a strong justification for removing
this functionality (I am of a mind that if you don't want to modify
the request, then don't do it).

If there are other things I'm not aware of them; you'll have to list
them more specifically.

-- 
Ian Bicking  |  http://blog.ianbicking.org  |  http://topplabs.org/civichacker

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