I definitely agree with cd34. As someone new to Pyramid, it's a huge help to
be able to find existing code. As a long time open source dev, I'm used to
(1) learn from and (2) use/extend existing code.

Thus being able to  find existing apps is a great advantage of a framework.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:51 AM, cd34 <[email protected]> wrote:

> pyramid_registration does pretty much what Apex does - or appears that
> it will. Apex is just auth + registration on top of pyramid. CSRF and
> Flash messages were added into it because CSRF should be included in
> any front-facing webapp and Flash messages just made it easier to
> communicate events with a user when they signed in, registered or
> their password was invalid. Supporting i18n should be done for any app
> developed in the 21st century.
>
> Same with Pyramid_openid - which is just authentication with Pyramid
> using OAuth2 as a provider.
>
> At what point does a toolkit become an application? You can't do
> anything with Apex except auth and registration. You can't deploy Apex
> as an application - the app would do nothing but allow someone to
> register and sign in. This is similar to Akhet which is a layer on
> Pyramid to give developers a more pylons-like environment. Kotti does
> have CMS features and by definition appears to be an application or
> framework that uses Pyramid as a base which would be ineligible.
>
> I imagine someone new to Pyramid may not find Kotti, or, may not make
> the association that it has quite a few CMS components available and
> ready for a Pyramid app. While you may not want to endorse external
> apps or show preferences, I think it benefits the communities on
> either side.
>
> I'm not really that concerned about it for Apex, but, having an easy
> to find set of extensions and apps should raise awareness for pyramid
> - if that is a goal.
>
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