Hi Ben,

I totally feel you.  I had this same issue with Pylon's FormEncode
initially.  I had a hard time customizing it for my needs and was
unable to get it working properly with AJAX.  In the end I just gave
up and designed my form the old-fashion way, in my opinion, the best
way.

You are right.  Keep things simple.  I don't like magic and often
times they cause more grief than joy.  These packages like Deform and
Chameleon are good to have, but not necessary when it comes to
building a web application.

Stay hungry, Stay foolish

-Mark Huang

On Aug 31, 9:29 pm, Ben Sizer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ben Sizer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm putting together a form, and looking for ways to do it, and
> > although I'm used to just writing the HTML by hand, I'll happily use
> > something to generate it also. The webhelpers.html.tag stuff looks
> > like it would work: but are there any examples of people using this
> > with Pyramid?
>
> Although I'm grateful for the suggestions I've had so far, and have
> had some luck with deform, I've still not got a direct answer to this
> question; am I asking in the right place?
>
> Having started making forms with deform (and finding that it doesn't
> seem to play nicely with anything other than Chameleon - why?
> Shouldn't HTML be the lingua franca here, not some template engine?)
> and then found out that Chameleon doesn't do template inheritance
> without some sort of bizarre macro language (is this not an incredibly
> common use case, for menus and the like?), I'm finding myself wanting
> to keep things simple and avoid using these big packages that attempt
> to solve a problem magically but actually make every edge case 10x
> more complicated, and instead just generating the HTML I need, where I
> need it.
>
> But nobody wants to talk about generating small bits of HTML, it
> seems. :)
>
> --
> Ben Sizer

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