Thanks for the comprehensive info. I will stick with Mako for the time
being and let's see I can go forth without banging my head against the
wall. Everyone else may continue the discussion.

Thanks all.

On Dec 17, 7:14 pm, Mike Orr <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Joshua Partogi
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
>
> > I am left undecided whether to use mako or chameleon. From what I have
> > observed, it seems that chameleon is the default template language in
> > pyramid (CMIIW). Is there any case where chameleon is more preferred
> > when using pyramid? I actually like mako but I am afraid there are
> > some mako functionality that is not supported in pyramid.
>
> The reason Chameleon seems first is that Pyramid's codebase is a
> direct descendant of BFG, which had Chameleon.  The Pylons-like parts
> were added later, and the tutorial authors happened to be Chameleon
> users. Mako was added to Pyramid with the intention that people would
> use it, and that they *should* use it if they're more comfortable with
> it.
>
> All of Mako is supported in Pyramid. Overall I'd say Mako has more
> features than Chameleon and is more flexible.  However, one advantage
> of Chameleon is that, because it's an XML-based language, the template
> is guaranteed to be well-formed if the rendering doesn't raise an
> exception. (That doesn't necessarily mean the output will be
> well-formed, if your variables contain unbalanced tags and you output
> them as literals rather than the default of escaping them.) Also, it
> looks Pyramid supports internationalization better with Chameleon
> (more documentation, more built-in support). That doesn't mean you
> can't do internationalization with Mako, it just means you'd have to
> do more of the structural work yourself. (Are there any tutorials on
> this?)
>
> One feature that may not be obvious if you're not using the Akhet
> scaffold, is that you can define Mako options in the INI file
> ("mako.directories = line1  line2") or at the beginning of your main
> function (``settings["mako.directories"] = [...]``).
>
> I also have used Mako a lot, and have been trying out Chameleon to see
> if I might want to use it. My impression is that Chameleon's syntax is
> very different, and it takes time to map your Mako idioms to Chameleon
> equivalents. So it's only worth doing if you have time to do it
> slowly, or if your first Chameleon application requires only simple
> templates.
>
> Longer term, Chris has been talking about removing both Chameleon and
> Mako from the Pyramid core, making them add-on packages
> (pyramid_chameleon and pyramid_mako). They would then be application
> dependencies like SQLAlchemy, rather than Pyramid core dependencies.
>
> --
> Mike Orr <[email protected]>

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