Hi Randall,

Just a quick question.  I began to realize I need the expire 
feature<http://elsdoerfer.name/docs/webassets/expiring.html#expire-using-the-filename>.
 
 How would I add a %(versions)s if I were to use the YAML file to store my 
bundles?  

On Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:59:24 UTC-5, Randall Leeds wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Mark Huang <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > Hi everyone, 
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread, I really appreciate 
> it. I have one more question that's been bothering me though: 
> > 
> > Managing assets in you python code, be it writing a bundle/library OR 
> calling a jquery.need() while writing your pyramid view, this just feels a 
> bit weird. I was actually hoping for a solution much like minimattic where 
> by the minification/combination of assets are specified in your templates. 
>  Maybe it's just me, but don't you guys think it's more natural ? 
>
> I prefer not setting minification in my templates because I want it to 
> be a runtime option (to be flipped off during development for easier 
> debugging). The debug mode of webassets makes that easy. Fanstatic has 
> something similar as well. 
>
> Instead, I set up most of my assets using the yaml support in webassets: 
>
> https://github.com/hypothesis/h/blob/bff441621535674adcd2834a64927c6665de3e67/h/resources.yaml
>  
>
> Combining that with my resources.py, I end up with the webassets 
> environment in my template globals, as I said before: 
>
> https://github.com/hypothesis/h/blob/bff441621535674adcd2834a64927c6665de3e67/h/resources.py#L38
>  
>
> If you try webassets, you also need to turn off the cache and manifest 
> depending on the assets that are being bundled. This may only be 
> necessary if you're using things that need to be forced debug=False, 
> such as SASS/SCSS or CoffeeScript which cannot be served directly to 
> the browser. 
>
> https://github.com/hypothesis/h/blob/bff441621535674adcd2834a64927c6665de3e67/development.ini#L27
>  
>
> Note that I haven't actually added the minifiers to the end of my 
> filter chains, but you can see by the output names where I plan to. 
>
> > 
> > And what if I had base templates that always use jquery and jqueryui, 
>  must I specify that I need to use it in every single vie/controller ( I 
> come from a pylons world ) that I write? 
>
> This is part of why I switched to webassets. At first I thought 
> .need() was neat, but then I realized that it's more often my 
> templates than my view functions that need to specify the assets. 
> Also, it bothered me that some injector middleware would need to read 
> the body on the way out looking for the </head> or </body> and 
> injecting the assets. That seems like extra work when I could just 
> write it in to my template. 
>
> To answer your previous question, the mako syntax would be something like: 
>
> % for href in environment['css_bundle'].urls(): 
>   <link rel="stylesheet" href="${href}" /> 
> % endfor 
>
> Also, it should go without saying these are just my preferences. There 
> are also other projects like https://github.com/tav/assetgen and 
> probably others. 
>
> -Randall 
>

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