Thanks for taking the lead and initiative on this.

I just paid for my PyCon registration, and I will be there for tutorials through sprints.

I will also volunteer for pre-tutorial setup. Environment setup has been a problem. I think that there should be pre-requisites:

* have previous web application development experience in any programming language
* installed the latest Python 3
* created a venv
* installed Pyramid into the venv
* created a "Hello World" Pyramid app

The last 4 items are documented.
http://trypyramid.com/


On 9/4/14 at 6:35 AM, [email protected] (Paul Everitt) pronounced:

Although this isn't necessarily the target audience, I thought I'd open it up for discussion here. At the last two PyCons I did a half-day intro to Pyramid under Python 3 tutorial. In fact, I pitched at those interested in web development under Python 3 first, with Pyramid along for the ride.

The signup numbers were good the first year, then lower last year. I am thinking about adding something to attract interest.

IIRC, the previous two years were targeted toward beginners or "non-experts".

When I do meetups and lead tutorials on getting started with Pyramid, only about 10% of the users have Python 3 already installed. I think that putting Python 3 in last year's pitch brought down the number of signups.

Lately I've been doing a lot of frontend development: AngularJS talking to a REST API in Pyramid. Which also means the modern frontend toolchain: npm, bower, grunt/gulp, with Karma/Protractor for testing. Do you think I should submit a tutorial proposal that is frontend+REST in nature?

I think this would be more attractive than Python 3. It has that "Whoa! How'd you do that?" potential. I like to see how other people go through their workflow when developing web apps.

--steve


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As an aside, once I get caught up, I'm going to start an RFC here about the tutorial in the docs.

--Paul


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Steve Piercy, Soquel, CA

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