2015-01-03 1:25 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: > Hi, this looks very nice, but I am not able to get it running - the > instructions in the 'get started' section of the website do not get me > started, unfortunately. >
Sorry for the inconvenience but as Steve already noticed there are some flaws with the documentation. I have updated the documentation a little bit and hope it will work for you now if the hints from Steve did not help to get a working ringo application anyway. However the instructions there are still tested on my working environment and not in a fresh one. I will catch up this soon. ImportError: /home/xxx/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/lxml/etree.so: > undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeLatin1 > > Argh, an unicode error, no, please not that kind of problems... I am > giving up here for today. > Ok, never saw this one before. If this error is still happing after you tried to reinstall ringo following the new instructions please give me a note and I will file an issue for this one to get my hands on it. > I think I have to write about my experiences with several other pyramid > based projects here. I have had similar problems with kotti and ptah in the > recent past. I hope writing about it here will not be seen as ranting, but > may give you an insight about the newcomer perspective. > > I looked at pyramid and was extremely satisfied, this really looks like > the best way to build websites (for me) after some years of experience with > several other (non-python) frameworks. I am really deeply impressed about > the approaches taken with pyramid and the extensive documentation, > everything I see sets a really very high quality standard. > That is fine and there is no reason why you should change your opinion on pyramid :) However, after some playing around of course I came to the point of not > wanting to reinvent all the wheels, not only because I am a lazy dog, but > because of the fear of doing things wrong. Especially all things security, > like permissions, user signup and forms I really would like to build on > something battletested, so I was starting to look into the several things > that are out there and build up on pyramid, like kotti and ptah, and now > ringo. > :) Thats exactly the reason why I wrote such a thing like ringo. But please note: The whole things has been written by only one person: Me. And I am far away from calling me an expert. However it works out for me quite good but the code could be much better - the documentation too. But feed back like yours helps me to improve it. The most significant experiences with these have been that I was not able > to get them running. > > What is frustrating: I read a little bit into the sources, but I was not > able to solve the problems. And what was even more frustrating was the > knowledge, that this all is not some deeply involved hardcore hacker stuff > that I am not understanding, it is all packaging and version isolation > problems on the surface, so I feel like some little thing is keeping me > away from usig all that great stuff because, of course, I can not build a > real website with anything that throws errors I can not solve. > Thanks for sharing your experiences and expectations. I am sorry that your first steps in the pyramid world were a little bit frustrating when it comes to get some pyramid based software running. I will take this as incentive to make my part here as good as possible in the future. All those framework utilize pyramid as their base and they all come with their own way how things work. For someone who is new into pyramid this isn't probably the easiest start. Ok, I know this is all my fault not studying all the details about the > python setup process (BORING!) - but to make it a little bit more > constructive I would like to ask all you great developers out there: please > test your setup instructions, especially the ones on page one, manually and > test them in a "fresh" python environment, test them with pyenv and several > python versions, test them on a stock debian and ubuntu with system python, > and please always link to the relevant knowledge about the setup process - > please avoid magic that does not work. > No. IMHO it not your fault not studying the details on python setup process. It is the fault of the author of the software not providing working instructions on installations for people like you. Torsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
