Hi Steve (and other readers)
I have worked out what my misunderstanding was and I share it so that 
others can avoid the (perhaps too obvious) trap I fell in to.
I was not in the new environment when I was running the tutorials.  I had 
worked through the first 11 tutorials, and then came back to number 12 on 
the next day (and thus in a new terminal). In looking at your advice to 
follow Requirements.html  to the letter, I thought I had already done so. 
But I now realize that my terminal session did not have (env) as part of 
the prompt.

But all is well now, and I am progressing through the remaining tutorials.  
Thanks for your help Steve. It is nice that you take the time to help out 
us noobs.

Regards
Brian

On Monday, 10 August 2015 20:00:41 UTC+12, Steve Piercy wrote:
>
> You mean this? 
>
> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/latest/quick_tutorial/scaffolds.html
>  
>
> Do this: 
>
>      $VENV/bin/python 
>
> What python version shows?  If not Python 3.4.x (as you would 
> expect), then try this: 
>
>      $VENV/bin/python3 
>
> ...and if it shows 3.4.x, then adjust any command with 'python' 
> to use 'python3' instead. 
>
> [Note to self, we might need to add a step for users to check 
> that they have the desired Python version as the default in 
> their PATH.] 
>
> Next, did you do the previous step 2? 
>
>      $VENV/bin/pcreate --scaffold starter scaffolds 
>
> Next, did you follow Requirements previously and to the letter? 
>
> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/latest/quick_tutorial/requirements.html
>  
>
> If you did not, then start over with a clean directory, and 
> follow every step.  Do not go off the beaten path with pip, 
> unless you know the implications (as stated at the end of Requirements). 
>
> --steve 
>
>
> On 8/9/15 at 9:03 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> (Yetta) 
> pronounced: 
>
> >I am wanting to step through the tutorials but I get 
> >"ImportError: 
> /home/brian/projects/quick_tutorial/env/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload/_ctypes.cpython-34m-
>  
>
> >x86_64-linux-gnu.so: undefined symbol: _PyTraceback_Add" 
> >I am in this directory 
> >~/projects/quick_tutorial/scaffolds 
> >and I try running 
> >$VENV/bin/python setup.py develop 
> >The ~/projects/quick_tutorial/env/bin   folder does have a copy of 
> python3.4 
> > 
> >Any idea what I am missing? 
> >Thanks 
> >Brian 
> > 
>
> ------------------------ 
> Steve Piercy, Soquel, CA 
>
>

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