I did notice this on a Ubuntu 16.04 system that is using python3 -mvenv:

total 32K
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:52 .
drwx------ 7 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:54 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:54 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:52 include
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:52 lib
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    3 Mar 16 19:52 lib64 -> lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   60 Mar 16 19:52 pip-selfcheck.json
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   69 Mar 16 19:52 pyvenv.cfg
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Mar 16 19:52 share

So it looks like lib64 should be symlinked to lib…

Bert

> On Mar 15, 2017, at 23:07, Bert JW Regeer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Could you try using:
> 
> python3 -mvenv deprecation
> 
> Please?
> 
> I am wondering if this an issue with virtualenv using Py2 (32 bit) and Py3 
> (64 bit)? I am grasping at straws here, but the whole lib64 thing is 
> interesting.
> 
> While using the python in the venv, could you also run:
> 
> import sys
> print('\n'.join(sys.path))
> 
> I’d be interested in seeing what your sys.path is.
> 
> What version of Linux are you running? CentOS 7?
> 
> I am not sure why the version of zope.interface would change anything though.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bert JW Regeer
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 21:03, Dan Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think I figured it out. go to the bottom for the actual issue. Hint it's 
>> not a permission issue. If you're good you might be able to figure it out 
>> before the end.
>> 
>> I decided to get as basic as possible. I SSH'ed into the EC2 VM and with in 
>> my home directory I used virtualenv to create a venv.
>> 
>> (venv)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ virtualenv -p python3 deprecation
>> Running virtualenv with interpreter /opt/python/run/venv/bin/python3
>> Using real prefix '/usr'
>> New python executable in deprecation/bin/python3
>> Also creating executable in deprecation/bin/python
>> Installing setuptools, pip...done.
>> 
>> 
>> Then I installed pyramid into that venv
>> 
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ pip install pyramid
>> You are using pip version 6.0.8, however version 9.0.1 is available.
>> You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
>> Collecting pyramid
>>  Downloading pyramid-1.8.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl (574kB)
>>    100% |################################| 577kB 511kB/s 
>> Collecting PasteDeploy>=1.5.0 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading PasteDeploy-1.5.2-py2.py3-none-any.whl
>> Collecting zope.deprecation>=3.5.0 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading zope.deprecation-4.2.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl
>> Collecting repoze.lru>=0.4 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading repoze.lru-0.6.tar.gz
>> Collecting venusian>=1.0a3 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading venusian-1.0.tar.gz (45kB)
>>    100% |################################| 49kB 3.5MB/s 
>> Collecting WebOb>=1.7.0rc2 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading WebOb-1.7.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl (83kB)
>>    100% |################################| 86kB 2.6MB/s 
>> Collecting hupper (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading hupper-0.4.4-py2.py3-none-any.whl
>> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): setuptools in 
>> ./deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages (from pyramid)
>> Collecting translationstring>=0.4 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading translationstring-1.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl
>> Collecting zope.interface>=3.8.0 (from pyramid)
>>  Downloading zope.interface-4.3.3.tar.gz (150kB)
>>    100% |################################| 151kB 1.7MB/s 
>> Installing collected packages: zope.interface, translationstring, hupper, 
>> WebOb, venusian, repoze.lru, zope.deprecation, PasteDeploy, pyramid
>>  Running setup.py install for zope.interface
>>    building 'zope.interface._zope_interface_coptimizations' extension
>>    gcc -pthread -Wno-unused-result -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=1 -DNDEBUG 
>> -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector 
>> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -D_GNU_SOURCE -fPIC -fwrapv 
>> -fPIC -I/usr/include/python3.4m -c 
>> src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c -o 
>> build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.4/src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.o
>>    src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c:34:1: warning: 
>> "METH_KEYWORDS" redefined
>>    In file included from /usr/include/python3.4m/Python.h:90,
>>                     from 
>> src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c:15:
>>    /usr/include/python3.4m/methodobject.h:56:1: warning: this is the 
>> location of the previous definition
>>    gcc -pthread -shared 
>> build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.4/src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.o
>>  -L/usr/lib64 -lpython3.4m -o 
>> build/lib.linux-x86_64-3.4/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.cpython-34m.so
>>    Skipping installation of 
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/zope/__init__.py 
>> (namespace package)
>>    Installing 
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4-nspkg.pth
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Running setup.py install for venusian
>>  Running setup.py install for repoze.lru
>>    Skipping installation of 
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages/repoze/__init__.py 
>> (namespace package)
>>    Installing 
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages/repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4-nspkg.pth
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Successfully installed PasteDeploy-1.5.2 WebOb-1.7.1 hupper-0.4.4 
>> pyramid-1.8.3 repoze.lru-0.6 translationstring-1.3 venusian-1.0 
>> zope.deprecation-4.2.0 zope.interface-4.3.3
>> 
>> And then checked for zope.deprecation
>> 
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 ~]$ pip freeze
>> You are using pip version 6.0.8, however version 9.0.1 is available.
>> You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
>> hupper==0.4.4
>> PasteDeploy==1.5.2
>> pyramid==1.8.3
>> repoze.lru==0.6
>> translationstring==1.3
>> venusian==1.0
>> WebOb==1.7.1
>> zope.deprecation==4.2.0
>> zope.interface==4.3.3
>> 
>> Then I jumped into python and imported pip and made sure I still could see 
>> it.
>> 
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 deprecation]$ python
>> Python 3.4.3 (default, Sep  1 2016, 23:33:38) 
>> [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9)] on linux
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>> import pip #needed to use the pip functions
>>>>> for i in pip.get_installed_distributions(local_only=True):
>> ...     print(i)
>> ... 
>> zope.interface 4.3.3
>> pip 6.0.8
>> pyramid 1.8.3
>> zope.deprecation 4.2.0
>> translationstring 1.3
>> venusian 1.0
>> PasteDeploy 1.5.2
>> repoze.lru 0.6
>> setuptools 12.0.5
>> WebOb 1.7.1
>> hupper 0.4.4
>>>>> 
>> 
>> Then I tried to import zope.deprecation, but ng
>> 
>>>>> from zope.deprecation import deprecated
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>> ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'
>> 
>> From here it didn't make sense. I went into site-packages and 
>> zope.deprecation was there, BUT zope.interfaces was missing, but it was 
>> still working? Pip happily reported that zope.interface was still there
>> 
>> Then as I was uninstalling/installing with various options I noticed the 
>> paths. zope.deprecation was in lib and zope.interface was in lib64
>> 
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ pwd
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib/python3.4/site-packages
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ ls -l
>> total 412
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 appdirs-1.4.3.dist-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user  24701 Mar 16 02:34 appdirs.py
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    126 Mar 16 02:34 easy_install.py
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 hupper
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 hupper-0.4.4.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 packaging
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 packaging-16.8.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 paste
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 
>> PasteDeploy-1.5.2.dist-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    304 Mar 16 02:13 
>> PasteDeploy-1.5.2-py2.6-nspkg.pth
>> drwxrwxr-x 11 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:33 pip
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:33 pip-9.0.1.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 pkg_resources
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 __pycache__
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 pyparsing-2.2.0.dist-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user 231039 Mar 16 02:34 pyparsing.py
>> drwxrwxr-x  7 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 pyramid
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 pyramid-1.8.3.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 repoze
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 
>> repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4.egg-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    305 Mar 16 02:13 
>> repoze.lru-0.6-py3.4-nspkg.pth
>> drwxrwxr-x  4 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 setuptools
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 
>> setuptools-34.3.2.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:34 six-1.10.0.dist-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user  30098 Mar 16 02:34 six.py
>> drwxrwxr-x  4 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 translationstring
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 
>> translationstring-1.3.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  5 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 venusian
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 
>> venusian-1.0-py3.4.egg-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 webob
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:13 WebOb-1.7.1.dist-info
>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:42 zope
>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ec2-user ec2-user   4096 Mar 16 02:42 
>> zope.deprecation-4.2.0.dist-info
>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ec2-user ec2-user    349 Mar 16 02:42 
>> zope.deprecation-4.2.0-py2.7-nspkg.pth
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ cd zope
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ ls -l
>> total 4
>> drwxrwxr-x 3 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 deprecation
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ 
>> 
>> And zope.interface...
>> 
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ pwd
>> /home/ec2-user/deprecation/lib64/python3.4/site-packages
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ ls -l
>> total 12
>> drwxrwxr-x 3 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 zope
>> drwxrwxr-x 2 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 
>> zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4.egg-info
>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 ec2-user ec2-user  529 Mar 16 02:42 
>> zope.interface-4.3.3-py3.4-nspkg.pth
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 site-packages]$ cd zope
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ ls -l
>> total 4
>> drwxrwxr-x 5 ec2-user ec2-user 4096 Mar 16 02:42 interface
>> (deprecation)[ec2-user@ip-172-31-13-110 zope]$ 
>> 
>> My thought was that perhaps the interpreter was getting confused because it 
>> found zope under lib64 but not deprecate and just gave up.To test this out I 
>> tried uninstalling zope.interface, and I was now able to import 
>> zope.deprecate!
>> 
>> SO NOW WHAT??
>> 
>> Anyway, I am going to sleep. I doubt I'll work on this tomorrow morning, but 
>> if anyone can tell me how to trick the pip into installing zope.interface 
>> into lib/site-packages instead of lib64/site-packages, I'd appreciate it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Dan Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Here's the traceback
>> 
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.429962 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Target WSGI script 
>> '/opt/python/current/app/application.py' cannot be loaded as Python module.
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430078 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Exception occurred processing WSGI 
>> script '/opt/python/current/app/application.py'.
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430145 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376] Traceback (most recent call last):
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430237 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File "/opt/python/current/app/application.py", line 
>> 2, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430255 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from pyramid.config import Configurator
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430314 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File 
>> "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/config/__init__.py",
>>  line 12, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430329 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from pyramid.interfaces import (
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430383 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]   File 
>> "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/interfaces.py", 
>> line 1, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430399 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376]     from zope.deprecation import deprecated
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.430444 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:50376] ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569219 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Target WSGI script 
>> '/opt/python/current/app/application.py' cannot be loaded as Python module.
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569285 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728] mod_wsgi (pid=2187): Exception occurred processing WSGI 
>> script '/opt/python/current/app/application.py'.
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569339 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728] Traceback (most recent call last):
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569418 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File "/opt/python/current/app/application.py", line 
>> 2, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569435 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from pyramid.config import Configurator
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569493 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File 
>> "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/config/__init__.py",
>>  line 12, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569509 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from pyramid.interfaces import (
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569563 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]   File 
>> "/opt/python/run/venv/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pyramid/interfaces.py", 
>> line 1, in <module>
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569595 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728]     from zope.deprecation import deprecated
>> [Thu Mar 16 01:36:38.569638 2017] [:error] [pid 2187] [remote 
>> 69.127.251.49:54728] ImportError: No module named 'zope.deprecation'
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Tres Seaver <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> 
>> On 03/15/2017 07:23 AM, Dan Clark wrote:
>>> Tres,
>>> 
>>> I just committed the hello pyramid project to
>>> https://github.com/adidas/aws_hello_pyramid. It's a simple script
>>> (with requirements.txt) that can be tweaked to recreate the issue on
>>> AWS. Just need to change the requirements.txt to use 4.2.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I ran out of time today, but if you give me another morning I
>>> can upload the project with 4.2 and get the complete traceback.
>> 
>> Dan,
>> 
>> Thanks for working on it, and for documenting your path.  If you figure
>> something out about why you are needing to pin zope.deprecation, please
>> create an issue for either pyramid[1] or zope.deprecation[2] and mentaion
>> me (@tseaver) in the description.
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/issues/
>> [2] https://github.com/zopefoundation/zope.deprecation/issues
>> 
>> 
>> Tres.
>> - --
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>> Palladion Software   "Excellence by Design"    http://palladion.com
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