Hi everyone, I don’t think I’m breaking any news when I say that the development in the Pyramid ecosystem has gone a bit down and it’s especially exemplified by amount of SQLAlchemy warnings I have to silence in my projects that seem to be unlikely to be fixed (<https://twitter.com/laurencerowe/status/1156111287631273985>).
In the worst case this means that we’ll end up without SQLAlchemy for our documented workflows soon. There also was the problem that the i18n documentation was an incoherent mixture of old and new tools but that’s been a while so I’m not sure if it’s still true. Venusian is triggering deprecation warnings too btw. The problem of course is that the current maintenance burden is carried by far too few people (thank you so much Michael, Bert, and Steve!). *** One thing we could do is to find a way to stop using/advertising packages that have to be maintained by use and push for those that we share with Flask that is doing much better. WTForms instead of deform comes to mind, Jinja2 instead of Chameleon, and waitress might also not be worth the time Bert is putting into it (unless he’s enjoying it :)). Basically cut our losses and focus the remaining energy where it’s most worth it. I realize this is not a popular proposition. *** My main point is a different though. I have tried to look at the projects that are screaming for attention and found them very daunting and alien so I suspect I’m not the only one who looked at it and gave up. I hope at least some of you might have seen my PyCon US talk this year where I talk about friction in contribution: https://hynek.me/talks/python-foss/ My offer for you would be choose select projects that are essential to write awesome Pyramid apps and pull them into 2019 whether they like it or not. I’m not gonna start though unless we can agree on it happening and how – turns out my copious free time is everything but. 😬 But I do care about Pyramid and I want it to stay strong. *** Finally, there’s also the fact that Pyramid is used by PyPI/warehouse so I suspect that it should be possible to ask the PSF for money to close the biggest current gaps? Any freelancers maybe? *** I know there’s absolutely nothing I can do from people starting discussing my motivation (paragraph 1) and “dead batteries” (paragraph 2) vs my offer (paragraph 3) but I’d still love to get a somewhat focused discussion. Maybe split your replies? Cheers, —h -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pylons-discuss/020860EA-EA66-4916-BA7B-5BB2DB0D4997%40ox.cx.
