How do I measure angles and distances in pymol???

Michael Ford



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>    1. Question on clipping with surfaces (Timothy Moore)
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> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:56:42 +0100
> From: "Timothy Moore" <mrx...@nottingham.ac.uk>
> To: <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [PyMOL] Question on clipping with surfaces
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> Hello all,
>
> I don't know whether this has been covered before but I have some
> questions on clipping whilst using surfaces. Before I go on I will state
> that pymol produces the best surfaces for my purposes, of any program I
> have seen so far. However, (sorry there is always room to be better! ;)
> ) the ideal situation would be if the cut "surface" was represented as
> if the molecule was solid. ie: you didn't see inside the molecule
> itself, but the cut plane. Is there any way to do this (e.g. via povray
> rendering)? I appreciate it is probably not exactly easy though.
>
> Alternatively, it would be good if it was possible to make the inside
> surface of a molecule appear completely black without resorting to
> ambient=0.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Tim
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Warren L. DeLano 1" <war...@sunesis.com>
> To: Timothy Moore <mrx...@nottingham.ac.uk>
> cc:  <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Question on clipping with surfaces
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> On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Timothy Moore wrote:
>
> > I don't know whether this has been covered before but I have some
> > questions on clipping whilst using surfaces. Before I go on I will state
> > that pymol produces the best surfaces for my purposes, of any program I
> > have seen so far. However, (sorry there is always room to be better! ;)
> > ) the ideal situation would be if the cut "surface" was represented as
> > if the molecule was solid. ie: you didn't see inside the molecule
> > itself, but the cut plane. Is there any way to do this (e.g. via povray
> > rendering)? I appreciate it is probably not exactly easy though.
> >
> > Alternatively, it would be good if it was possible to make the inside
> > surface of a molecule appear completely black without resorting to
> > ambient=0.
>
> Tim,
>
>    What you're asking for is mathematically non-trivial.  In fact, I
> haven't even solved this problem for spheres yet in the raytracer.
>
>    As far as I can tell, setting ambient to zero alone doesn't quite do
> the job, since some triangles still get lit by the light source.
>
>    The best combination I can find is:
>
> set ambient=0
> set direct=0.7
> set reflect=0.0
> set backface_cull=0
>
>    While gives no shadows an only a few artifacts.
>
>    As an alternative, you might just consider showing the inside of the
> surface directly...that will create less visual artifacts, and so long as
> ambient and direct are sufficiently low, it will look reasonable in "ray".
>
> util.ray_shadows("heavy")
> set two_sided_lighting=1
> set backface_cull=0
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> Cheers,
> Warren
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