Warren,

The RH9 Patch fixed the ray tracing problem.  Thanks for your help.

Tonight I will send you specific information about the Debian ray tracing 
problem.

Thanks,
Morri

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:07:00 -0800 "Warren L. DeLano" wrote:

> Morri,
> 
> The RH9 Patch is described and published on: 
> 
> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2003-136.html
> 
> I would not expect Debian to suffer from the same crash.  If it does,
> then we may be dealing with a genuine bug in PyMOL (assuming that you're
> not simply running out of RAM).
> 
> With respect to Debian, in order to debug the problem, you might want to
> send me a PyMOL session file which crashes on your system when the next
> command issued is "ray".  
> 
> Cheers,
> Warren
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morri Feldman [mailto:morrifeld...@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:36 PM
> > To: Warren L. DeLano; 'Matt Franklin'; 'Morri Feldman'
> > Cc: 'pymol-users'
> > Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Ray Tracing Crash
> > 
> > Warren and Matt,
> > 
> > Thanks so much for your help.  I must be using the
> > stock glibc because "set max_threads, 1" allows me to
> > ray trace without crashing.  I will tell my system
> > administrator to patch glibc.  Do you know where I
> > should look for the patch?
> > 
> > My debian/testing system at home also has trouble ray
> > tracing especially sticks.  When it fails I get a
> > segmentation fault.  Is my problem at home also due to
> > an unpatched glibc?
> > 
> > The error message is:
> > /usr/bin/pymol: line 7: 32460 Segmentation fault
> > python
> > /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/pymol/__init__.py $*
> > 
> > Thanks for creating such a great program,
> > Morri
> > 
> > --- "Warren L. DeLano" <war...@delanoscientific.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Morri,
> > >
> > >   (First, thanks Matt for the great diagnostic
> > > advice!)
> > >
> > >   This sounds to me like a potential threading
> > > deadlock, possible
> > > due to the broken threading in RedHat 9.  Are you
> > > using the stock
> > > version or have you patched glibc?
> > >
> > >   If you haven't patched your RedHat 9, then one way
> > > to be sure
> > > this is the problem is to "set max_threads, 1"
> > > before issuing the ray
> > > command.  If PyMOL doesn't hang, then you've found
> > > the culprit.
> > >
> > >   If have already patched your RH9, then let's do
> > > some more work
> > > to determine what's going on...
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Warren
> > >
> > > --
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > [mailto:pymol-users-
> > > > ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Franklin
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:25 PM
> > > > To: Morri Feldman
> > > > Cc: pymol-users
> > > > Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Ray Tracing Crash
> > > >
> > > > Morri Feldman wrote:
> > > > > I am running pymol .93.  When I try to ray trace
> > > a scene, the gui
> > > shows
> > > > a
> > > > > white status bar that moves halfway across the
> > > screen and then
> > > freezes.
> > > > > After this the GUI is frozen and must be killed.
> > >  No error messages
> > > are
> > > > > shown.  The computer is running RedHat 9 and has
> > > 4 processors.  Has
> > > > > anyone else experienced this problem?  Do you
> > > have any solutions?
> > > > >
> > > > > This message may double post because I
> > > accidentally tried to post it
> > > > from
> > > > > my other email account.  Sorry
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Morri
> > > > >
> > > > > Morri Feldman
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Morri -
> > > >
> > > > The progress bar for raytracing doesn't move
> > > linearly - the first half
> > > > of the bar is covered fairly quickly, then more
> > > slowly, then very
> > > > slowly, then the last fifth is usually covered in
> > > one jump.  Are you
> > > > sure you just aren't being impatient?  Try
> > > raytracing a very simple
> > > > scene, like a single amino acid in spheres mode,
> > > to see if it hangs
> > > > then.  Also try raytracing parts of your scene in
> > > case some funny bit
> > > of
> > > > your molecule is causing this problem.  Finally,
> > > try reducing the
> > > > complexity of your surfaces and/or spheres: "set
> > > surface_quality, -1"
> > > (0
> > > > is the default).
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to contact me directly - I'm local!
> > > (Although Warren will
> > > be
> > > > more helpful...)
> > > >
> > > > - Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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