Hello Bachar,

On Fri, 2013-05-10 14:29  EDT,  Bachar Cheaib <cheaib.bac...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>  Dear pymol users,
> 
> I have wondered whether someone know how to know if a such structure in
> pdb file is multi-mer or mono-mer biologically speaking? Somehow in the
> related publication of structure this information is present in
> occurrence and  in pdb also is not nonintuitive to catch without the
> BIOMT transformations. A monomer could be deposited with multiple copies
> (or chains) of the same protein, but strikingly a biological (in vivo)
> homo-tetrameter (ex.1xiu ) it seems to be represented as a dimeric (two
> chains) and missing the two others in the pdb file
> 
> This record "REMARK 350 AUTHOR DETERMINED BIOLOGICAL UNIT: TETRAMERIC"
> does not tell us if a structure is really multi or monomeric in the pdb
> file.

This does tell you that the protein is thought to exist as a tetramer.
What is determined by crystallography and therefore what is present in a
PDB file is the structure that exists in the asymmetric unit, in other words
the unique part of the structure.  That could be a portion of the
structure if it has internal symmetry, but it could also be two or more
copies of the biological unit.  If the asymmetric unit is not a tetramer
(as in your case), then you do need to use the BIOMT information to generate
the tetramer. That is why that information is there.  Just in the answers
to a previous question that you included in your message, you could load the
structure with the "type=pdb1" option:

  fetch 1xiu, type=pdb1, async=0
  set all_states

which will fetch the biological assembly for that structure.  The extra
monomers that were generated by the crystallographic symmetry will be
visible when you set all_states.  Or you could split the states out into
separate objects.

> I would like just like to know how to conclude multimeric states
> informations from the pdb file without doing transformations ? just this
> information

<snip>

Cheers,
Rob
-- 
Robert L. Campbell, Ph.D.
Senior Research Associate/Adjunct Assistant Professor
Dept. of Biomedical & Molecular Sciences
Botterell Hall Rm 644
Queen's University, 
Kingston, ON K7L 3N6  Canada
Tel: 613-533-6821
<robert.campb...@queensu.ca>    http://pldserver1.biochem.queensu.ca/~rlc

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