Hi Sean -

I can confirm this behavior, but I’m not sure it’s unintentional on PyMOL’s 
part.  Rather, I think it may have something to do with two facts: 1) unlike 
loops, sheets represented in automatic mode are not radially symmetric; and 2) 
unlike helices, the orientation of the sheet at a particular CA atom cannot be 
determined by its immediate neighbors.  I haven’t had a chance to look at the 
relevant source, so I can’t confirm this at the moment, but it seems likely to 
me that PyMOL uses the other (non-CA) backbone atoms to define the “flat” plane 
of a sheet, and without this information, instead of guessing at its 
orientation, it omits the sheet entirely.  (This also appears to be the case 
for other non-radially symmetric modes, including dumbbell, rectangle, and 
oval.)

Could you get by using different colors to indicate your SS assignments in 
another cartoon mode?

Cheers,
Jared

Jared Sampson
Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.edu/






On Jun 4, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Sean Law 
<magic...@hotmail.com<mailto:magic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi PyMOLers,

I have a c-alpha only model and I would like to visualize both helices and 
sheets based on my own custom SS assignments (via "alter"). Altering a 
residue's SS assignment to helix or loop (ss="H" or ss="L") is fine and can be 
visualized. However, altering a residue's SS assignment to sheet (ss="S") 
causes that residue to disappear. Again, this is c-alpha only and I am 
visualizing in "cartoon automatic" mode.

Any suggestions for visualizing the sheets in this case would be greatly 
appreciated.

Best,

Sean
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