Hi Neena,
 
Adding to Kamil's explanation, the role of each column for a ATOM record in the 
PDB file is explained here:  
https://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/file-format-content/format33/sect9.html#ATOM.
    

The PDBeditor.jar program can help you retain the fixed file format of the PDB 
file: http://www.bioinformatics.org/pdbeditor/wiki/.

Best regards,

Blaine

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From: Kamil Steczkiewicz [kamil.steczkiew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 2:29 AM
To: Neena Susan Eappen
Cc: Mooers, Blaine H.M.  (HSC); zb2...@cumc.columbia.edu; pymol-users
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] [EXTERNAL] No cartoon view for custom PDB file

You got error in column positioning in PDB file - I added two whitespaces after 
ATOM mark. It probably couldn't parse the PDB file properly as the PDB file is 
column-specific format. It works now.
Chk attached file in PyMOL.
Kamil


wt., 6 lip 2021 o 23:13 Neena Susan Eappen 
<neenasusan...@gmail.com<mailto:neenasusan...@gmail.com>> napisaƂ(a):
Hello PyMOL users,

Please take a look at the two attached PDB files (opt 20 and opt 21); I 
formatted opt21.pdb file to match with that of opt20.pdb for PyMOL to recognize 
the former as a peptide. However, now I can neither see a line nor cartoon 
representation of the opt21 peptide anymore.
Any insights on what could be wrong in the opt21 PDB file?

Many thanks,
Neena

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 at 23:38, Neena Susan Eappen 
<neenasusan...@gmail.com<mailto:neenasusan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you Blaine and Zuben for your insights and troubleshooting the problem! I 
understood the formatting issue with the current PDB file, will do the 
necessary changes.

Regards,
Neena

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 at 09:59, Mooers, Blaine H.M. (HSC) 
<blaine-moo...@ouhsc.edu<mailto:blaine-moo...@ouhsc.edu>> wrote:
Hi Neena,

Thank you for attaching your PDB file.
That was a good idea.
It was very helpful for trouble-shooting.

Look inside yourPDB file with a text editor.
Your pdbPDB file is incomplete in three ways:

1) The third column of atom types lacks CA (Calpha) atoms.
PyMOL cannot recognize your coordinates as being from a protein.
You can use PDBeditor.jar or any good text editor (not MS Word) to edit the 
atom records.
If you need help selecting a text editor, check out 
https://mooerslab.github.io/pymolsnips/#editors<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mooerslab.github.io_pymolsnips_-23editors&d=DwMFaQ&c=VjzId-SM5S6aVB_cCGQ0d3uo9UfKByQ3sI6Audoy6dY&r=k0gMbcsdOcdbPUNV5tW66KQSZfXL0ewVDPVBp7tqbks&m=_0_SlrKbnune5f30F7yXXfCZeqLy4On9xiqmMCnp8i8&s=kNiqLqCiIujYjPxmB4ojZgo5FPlLYD2sh_pNAf8a9QI&e=>.

2) Your PDB file lacks  HELIX and SHEET records.
PyMOL's cartoon function uses these in the default automatic mode.

3) Your PDB file lacks residue identifiers (resi) and residue names (resn).
You might still be able to make a cartoon without them, but their absence will 
hinder making selections.

Best regards,

Blaine




Hello PyMOL users,

I performed a geometry optimization of a peptide on gaussview and then saved 
the output log file as a PDB. However, when I open this PDB file (attached 
hereby) in Pymol, I cannot enable the cartoon view of the secondary structure; 
I can only enable the line and stick representation.

Any insight on what might be going wrong?

Many thanks,
Neena
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