Donation is in here too... numpy is just the beginning step in a great direction. Go pypy!
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ian Ozsvald <i...@ianozsvald.com> wrote: > I agree that numpy support is a good first aim, I hope it'll open the > door to scipy support later. > > To that end I've made my donation. As discussed with Fijal via a > private email I felt awkward with the new project (hence me asking the > question 60 emails back) as I'd offered a £600 donation which was made > on the assumption that numpy+scipy support would be possible (and to > be clear - this was entirely *my* assumption, made at EuroPython, > before the project was defined - the error was mine). Obviously I > want to see numpy supported, I do also want to see scipy (and probably > cython) supported too. > > So, I've just donated $480USD (£300) for the numpy-pypy project as a > personal donation. I'll make a second donation of $480 as and when a > project is proposed that enables scipy support. This fits with my > goals and I hope it helps the project move forwards. > > Cheers all, > Ian. > > On 20 October 2011 11:41, Maciej Fijalkowski <fij...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Ian Ozsvald <i...@ianozsvald.com> > wrote: > >>> I was one of the people who responded to that poll, and I have to say > that I fall into the category "they actually meant 'SciPy'…". > >> > >> I'll note with regards to the survey that I also recall saying Yes to > >> numpy but never thinking to explain that I used SciPy, the SciKits and > >> Cython for a lot of my work (not all of it but definitely for chunks > >> of it). Maybe a second more focused survey would be useful? > > > > I think Armin made it clear enough but apparently not. We're not > > against scipy and we will try our best at supporting it. However it's > > not in the first part of the proposal - let's be reasonable, pypy is > > not magic, we can't make everything happen at the same time. > > > > We believe that emulating CPython C API is a lot of pain and numpy > > does not adhere to it anyway. We also see how cython is not the > > central part of numpy right now and it's unclear whether cython > > bindings would every be done as the basis of numpy array. How would > > you do that anyway? > > > > So providing a basic, working and preferably fast array type is an > > absolute necessity to go forward. We don't want to plan upfront what > > then. We also think providing the array type *has* to break backwards > > compatibility or it'll be a major pain to implement, simply because > > CPython is too different. And, as a value added, fast operations on > > low-level data *in python* while not a priority for a lot of scipy > > people is a priority for a lot of pypy people - it's just very useful. > > > > If you have a plan how to go forward *and* immediately get scipy, > > please speak up, I don't. > > > > Cheers, > > fijal > > > >> > >> Ian. > >> > >> -- > >> Ian Ozsvald (A.I. researcher) > >> i...@ianozsvald.com > >> > >> http://IanOzsvald.com > >> http://MorConsulting.com/ > >> http://StrongSteam.com/ > >> http://SocialTiesApp.com/ > >> http://TheScreencastingHandbook.com > >> http://FivePoundApp.com/ > >> http://twitter.com/IanOzsvald > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pypy-dev mailing list > >> pypy-dev@python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > >> > > > > > > -- > Ian Ozsvald (A.I. researcher) > i...@ianozsvald.com > > http://IanOzsvald.com > http://MorConsulting.com/ > http://StrongSteam.com/ > http://SocialTiesApp.com/ > http://TheScreencastingHandbook.com > http://FivePoundApp.com/ > http://twitter.com/IanOzsvald > _______________________________________________ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >
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