Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus
Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the
everything.

I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very
easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if
you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.


On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:

> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I
> wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour
> trying to deal with those.
>
> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>
> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8
> times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to
> make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an
> installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on
>> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you
>> to try.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to
>>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on
>>> scripts.
>>>
>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up
>>> at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for
>>>> some other Python packages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame 
>>>>>> apt-get's
>>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. 
>>>>>> THEY
>>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app 
>>>>>> binaries
>>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I 
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>  something like this in my .bashrc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>  done
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at 
>>>>>>> least on
>>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) 
>>>>>>> How do
>>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>   - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run 
>>>>>>>>>>> get-pip.py
>>>>>>>>>>>  ,
>>>>>>>>>>>  how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> Ryan
>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
>> program. Something’s wrong.
>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>
>>
>
>


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