Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote: > I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I > wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour > trying to deal with those. > > I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. > > Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 > times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to > make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an > installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on >> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you >> to try. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to >>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>> scripts. >>> >>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up >>> at this point. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for >>>> some other Python packages. >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame >>>>>> apt-get's >>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. >>>>>> THEY >>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app >>>>>> binaries >>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into >>>>>> the >>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I >>>>>> put >>>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>>> >>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>> done >>>>>> >>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>> y-c" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at >>>>>>> least on >>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) >>>>>>> How do >>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fij...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run >>>>>>>>>>> get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your >> program. Something’s wrong. >> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >> >> > > -- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
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