On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus
> Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the
> everything.
>
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
>
> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very
> easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if
> you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>
>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I
>> wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour
>> trying to deal with those.
>>
>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>>
>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8
>> times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to
>> make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an
>> installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on
>>> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you
>>> to try.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to
>>>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on
>>>> scripts.
>>>>
>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given
>>>> up at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for
>>>>> some other Python packages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame
>>>>>>> apt-get's
>>>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e.
>>>>>>> THEY
>>>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app
>>>>>>> binaries
>>>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about
>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed
>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily,
>>>>>>> I put
>>>>>>> something like this in my .bashrc:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # Laziness
>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>> # it was either that or:
>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>> y-c"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at
>>>>>>>> least on
>>>>>>>> windows).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I
>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.)
>>>>>>>> How do
>>>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rym...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <r...@rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run
>>>>>>>>>>>> get-pip.py
>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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