Hi Yury,

On 21 June 2015 at 14:25, Yury V. Zaytsev <y...@shurup.com> wrote:
> In conclusion, I'm afraid there is not much at all to learn from this
> publication...
>
> ... except that, maybe, this kind of papers should be reviewed by
> experts on the subject, and not by domain scientists (in this case,
> astrophysicists), who are generally unlikely to reject such works, as
> long as it looks reasonably "scientific" and the grammar is good enough.

Thanks for making and sharing your observations.  There is not much we
can actively do.  Of course running a loop only 100 times gives a bad
idea about the performance of any real JIT.  (Did they include the
time spent calling gcc/llvm, for some of the other "JITs"?)

We can however point people to your mail, if they come and complain to
us.  It gives a nice summary of a point of view much closer to our
own.

That said, I'm afraid the scientific community will continue to
produce "JITs" as long as there is no well-accepted alternative to
CPython.  I think that fighting every attempt or paper we disagree
with is pointless.  I'd rather get PyPy to progress to a point where
it be can used as a drop-in replacement of CPython in this domain too.
(I'm not in numpy at all myself, so it's more a would-be-nice wish
here.)


A bientôt,

Armin.
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