Indeed kickstarter (or similar) cannot be about general research of infrastructure. It has to be about something visible, a goal that's shared in a crowd.
IMO a campaign to achieve cpython-3.latest parity in pypy will get backers. Not only from pypy users, but also from cpython world, because: * it places Python 3 (language) into mainstream pypy, thus closing py2/py3 divide, and * it establishes Python as a larger standard (two implementations) Just my 2c. d. On 19 May 2016 at 18:12, Maciej Fijalkowski <fij...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Daniel. > > We've done all of the proposed scenarios. We had some success talking > to companies, but there is a lot of resistance for various reasons > (and the successful proposals I can't talk about), including the > inability to pay open source from the engineering budget and instead > doing it via the marketing budget (which is orders of magnitude > slower). In short - you need to offer them something in exchange, > which usually means you need to do a good job, but not good enough (so > you can fix it for money). This is a very perverse incentive, btu this > is how it goes. > > As for kickstarter - that targets primarily end-user experience and > not infrastructure. As such, it's hard to find money from users for > infrastructure, because it has relatively few direct users - mostly > large companies. > > As for who is working on this subject - I am. Feel free to get in > touch with me via other channels (private mail, gchat, IRC) if you > have deeper insights > > Best regards, > Maciej Fijalkowski > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Armin Rigo <ar...@tunes.org> wrote: >> On 19 May 2016 at 14:58, <pypy-dev-ow...@python.org> wrote: >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Daniel Hnyk <hny...@gmail.com> >>> To: pypy-dev@python.org >>> Cc: >>> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:58:36 +0000 >>> Subject: Question about funding, again >>> Hello, >>> >>> my question is simple. It strikes me why you don't have more financial >>> support, since PyPy might save quite a lot of resources compared to >>> CPython. When we witness that e.g. microsoft is able to donate $100k to >>> Jupyter (https://ipython.org/microsoft-donation-2013.html), why PyPy, being >>> even more generic then Jupyter, has problem to raise few tenths of >>> thousands. >>> >>> I can find few mentions about this on the internet, but no serious article >>> or summary is out there. >>> >>> Have you tried any of the following? >>> >>> 1. Trying to get some funding from big companies and organizations such as >>> Google, Microsoft, RedHat or some other like Free Software Foundation? If >>> not, why not? >>> 2. Crowd founding websites such as Kickstarter or Indiegogo get quite a big >>> attention nowadays even for similar projects. There were successful >>> campaigns for projects with even smaller target group, such as designers >>> (https://krita.org/) or video editors (openshot 2). Why haven't you created >>> a campaign there? Micropython, again, with much smaller target group of >>> users had got funded as well. >>> >>> Is someone working on this subject? Or is there a general lack of man power >>> in PyPy's team? Couldn't be someone hired from money already collected? >>> >>> Thanks for an answer, >>> Daniel >> _______________________________________________ >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > _______________________________________________ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev _______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
