On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ned Deily <n...@acm.org> wrote:

> In article
> <caf-rda9-9vf4qiatjohc8wo_aqng++2qmndkj3ucv2o4ptm...@mail.gmail.com>,
>  Eli Bendersky <eli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Victor Stinner
> > <victor.stin...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > It's maybe not the right place to discuss that, but why is IDLE part
> > > of the Python stdlib? Can't we maintain IDLE outside Python? I guess
> > > that maintaining it outside the stdlib would allow to develop it
> > > faster and be able to upgrade it for old (unmaintained) Python
> > > versions.
> > Strongly +1 here. I'd extend it to the whole tkinter and derivatives, but
> > IDLE itself is a worthier goal. In my view, it's been mainly "kept alive"
> > for the past many years and is a much inferior IDE to others, and not a
> > very good editor.
>
> Please, this is definitely not the right place to discuss the issue of
> IDLE in the stdlib.  It has been discussed repeatedly and the conclusion
> is always that it is an important part of the batteries-included
> experience.  More importantly, PEP 434, is out for review concerning
> IDLE maintenance and features, is currently out for review.  That would
> be a much more appropriate place to bring up any concerns.  (I will be
> forwarding my comments to the PEP soon, BTW.)
>


Sorry for mixing it up - I did not intend to hijack the discussion. While
I'm not familiar with Roger's work ISTM there were enough +1 to put a stamp
on it.

Eli
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