On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:48 AM Senthil Kumaran <sent...@python.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:36:52AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > #python-dev on IRC has been wildly successful until perhaps 2015.
> > Personally, I would have no problem using IRC if wanted to connect to a
> chat
> > for CPython at all.
>
> I know, it was useful, and #python is still. The bot, github, buildbot
> made it more alerts only. Looks like Victor and few others still use it.
>
>
> > Similarly, I would have no problem using Zulip.  I would even say that
> Zulip
> > is by far the best chat system I've ever used, and the alternatives don't
> > come near.  Its threading system is really superior to everything else.
>
> With Zulip, I find it hard to understand, why I need two namespaces (for
> lack of better term) before I start writing my text in Zulip chat.
>
> #topic->subtopic [content]
>
> I have not been a part of the community that uses Zulip effectively, so
> I haven't learnt it well.
>
> > The idea that if people don't use IRC and Zulip, then we should try
> another
> > chat system, sounds like magical thought. What kind of properties do
> Slack,
> > Gitter or Discord have that Zulip doesn't? They are actually quite
> annoying
> > in my experience.
>
> Some have community advantage. K8s, Golang people are on Slack. Multiple
> Companies are on Slack, technical barrier is very low. Similar is the
> case with Discord.
>

Yeah, I don't know if the Python community as a whole has totally settled
on a platform.


>
> Community usage, and usability _perhaps_ go hand in hand. General numbers
> could support for this.
>
> That said. If we (a quorum) feel comfortable using anything like IRC,
> Zulip, I agree, we don't need another one.
>

You could launch a poll on discuss.python.org and see if there's a clear
winner.

-Brett


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